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#188298
Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
David Rose wrote a very well balanced article in the Mail On Sunday about this - as usual it's a very complex problem and simplistic slogan answers solve nothing. But humanity has taken the stupid pill. Bret. Trump. This silly little Scandinavian munchkin who spouts simple solutions. As a species we can only understand Tabloid Headlines. Doh! The Simpsons, as often, came up with the ultimate comment. Doh.
 
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#188303
Silent Minority

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
We are in the shit,and have been for a long time...and even if we did all agree to do something...would we really be up for paying the price?

Cutting emissions is as much about using less electricity,cutting population growth...etc...

...so far the different responses from various governments have not been anywhere near the necessary...trading emissions quotas has got to be the ultimate in passing the buck..with all the things we have done so far...we still produce more crap than we did previously....we're all doomed Doctor King...
 
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#188305
Barney

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
The Kyoto Protocol was ratified by 144 countries - 75%!


 
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#188308
hedda

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
yes Rose made some good points but this isn't something you can actually say.."well if we got it wrong and The World's Scientists are actually correct" then...we are FUCKED.

The worst aspect of the reporting about Extinction Rebellion is the bizarre accusations and insult that the kids may be Middle Class.

Or basically, a younger generation who have been reasonable educated and believe the future will not be so rosy..in other words..an attack on anything INTELLECTUAL ..ie: Thatcher's dumbing down of the populace is now almost compete as education is seem as something deplorable.

We see it in everything (including Brexit) and as an observer of 98 years old I find it depressing that Britain once revered intellectuals and great thinkers and education was regarded as something noble and if people could rise out of their class and become educated (and who were encouraged to)it was seen as something good . But no longer.

A hideous, unbelievably boring and quite mentally ugly class of British Morons now Rule the Roost.

Anything encroaching intellectualism is suspect.."middle class" kids who dare to protest are an anathema..scientists are suspect and so on.

And if you can't see the links between that and a society that JUMPS when demanded by the most Gutter Media on the planet which tells the dumbed down proles that every single Celebrity has raped and abused someone, well you are just thick.

Also as India and China build Solar Panel "farms " that rare larger than some European countries (some at sea) Brits will be paying through the nose for electricity supplies and IT SERVES THEM RIGHT !!!

# I say that after spending a week at Byron Bay on my English pals property. They bought over 100 acres 30 years ago when it was cheap. It's an unbelievable paradise where Hollywood movie stars are buying land (Liam Hemsowrth, Matt Damon..no I didn't see then) but the point is...

My pals spent around $4000 10 years ago to put up Solar Panels on their roof and in the garden but now supply 10 other houses at NO COST after paying for the investment.

Brittain was once Great but , not for all time.
 
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#188310
Green Man

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
I thing is for certain all these 'experts'worked or work the government. Now to me it's just an excuse to tax workers even more.

Now I have an old diesel 4x4 in my field not fit for the road. Yet I drive it around still for fun. I might even do a tire fire later it's my yard.
 
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#188313
Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
My problem is the extremists and the simplicists. I like the idea of solar panels and have even considered them for my house (except we never have sun in London - oops today, Easter weekend, it's gorgeous).
 
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#188318
Silent Minority

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
The press had a good go at Emma,and flying first class into London for such an event will of course leave one open for accusations.
I'm fine,thousands of miles away,sunning myself in between my working day...but what of those hard working souls stuck in jams for hours? ..the zero hour contract caregiver? The busy cleaner losing out on low paid work as they couldn't make it between jobs?

I'm all for demonstrations, pointing out problems is all well and good,but deliberately making life harder for busy people will not benefit the cause,in fact it will make it less popular....rich out of touch luvvies,privileged kids sponging off daddy while telling the rest of us we're too stupid to know what is best for us....

Their are much better ways to draw attention....I do find myself agreeing with Doctor King and his original post,trying to drag in Brexit and education etc does seem a trifle odd...especially as immigration from the EU has been seen as a major factor in the decline of working class schools...
 
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#188322
Jo

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
Silent Minority wrote:
...especially as immigration from the EU has been seen as a major factor in the decline of working class schools...
I don't understand how 6% of the population (EU immigrants in the UK according to fullfact.org) are supposed to be responsible for all and any problems with housing, health care and education. How is that even mathematically possible? I can see how they can be perceived to be at the root of all problems in those areas, but not how they're actually to blame.
 
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#188323
Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
I thing is for certain all these 'experts'worked or work the government. Now to me it's just an excuse to tax workers even more.

Now I have an old diesel 4x4 in my field not fit for the road. Yet I drive it around still for fun. I might even do a tire fire later it's my yard.


Each to their own and everything, but how is driving a 4x4 round a field fun?
 
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#188325
Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
Jo wrote:
Silent Minority wrote:
...especially as immigration from the EU has been seen as a major factor in the decline of working class schools...
I don't understand how 6% of the population (EU immigrants in the UK according to fullfact.org) are supposed to be responsible for all and any problems with housing, health care and education. How is that even mathematically possible? I can see how they can be perceived to be at the root of all problems in those areas, but not how they're actually to blame.


I suppose just because of the sudden influx of more pupils, and resources diverted to language support?
 
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#188333
Silent Minority

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 4 Months ago  
Jo wrote:
Silent Minority wrote:
...especially as immigration from the EU has been seen as a major factor in the decline of working class schools...
I don't understand how 6% of the population (EU immigrants in the UK according to fullfact.org) are supposed to be responsible for all and any problems with housing, health care and education. How is that even mathematically possible? I can see how they can be perceived to be at the root of all problems in those areas, but not how they're actually to blame.


It was put in as a joke Joe.. and it is only a problem in certain working class areas.. Not usually where MPs live...and certainly much more than 6% where I live...but who cares...as I said a joke...
Be much more interested on your ideas on climate change...be nice to have a brexit free forum...we used to...the archives prove it๐Ÿ˜Š

I'm very much a green supporter....when they forget brexit and stick to what they know well....how are you today?
 
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#188533
robbiex

Re:Climate Change 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
This 16 year old swedish girl has it completely wrong that this is the fault of the older generation. Those that grew up in the 70s and 80s had a much lower carbon footprint than millenials now and generation z's. They flew less, drove less, ate less, used less plastic, and crucially there were a lot less of them. About 55 million in the uk in 1983 and now around 70 million ish. I wish people would check the facts before spouting this nonsense.
 
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