www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7487451...Roberts-aged-17.html


Is this a polite way of saying its a load of tripe?
If so, shouldn't they be taking further action elsewhere?

"'I would just giggle not really knowing how to reply to an aging man with a bad smile and terrible moves.'

Back at the house, she said she asked Epstein to take a picture of her and Andrew together for her to later show her mother.

'Ghislaine and Jeffrey left us after that,' she said, claiming they then got into the bath together.

'He started licking my toes, between my toes, the arches of my feet. And then we went into the bedroom and he proceeded to make love to me, so to speak,' she said.

Giuffre claimed Epstein paid her $15,000 the following day. "

Yet it says here:

"Giuffre tells NBC's Dateline she was forced to perform sex acts with Andrew when she was 17-years-old, after the British royal gave her vodka in a London nightclub."
edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/uk/prince-and...-intl-gbr/index.html

From what she told the Mail, it doesn't sound as if she was forced to do anything. And if she was embarrassed to be dancing with a middle-aged man, why on earth would she go on to have sex with him? Sounds as if she hasn't worked her story out properly. I'm guessing the only thing close to the truth in this story is that she might have asked Epstein to take a photo of her and Andrew together.

So many unanswered questions to the Epstein saga. How were underage girls enticed to his home? "I know a wealthy middle-aged man who'd like you to give him massages". Doesn't sound very appealing to me. If they were "forced" to do so, and go further, how did that happen? How were they "trafficked"?

Jo wrote:
"'I would just giggle not really knowing how to reply to an aging man with a bad smile and terrible moves.'

Back at the house, she said she asked Epstein to take a picture of her and Andrew together for her to later show her mother.

'Ghislaine and Jeffrey left us after that,' she said, claiming they then got into the bath together.

'He started licking my toes, between my toes, the arches of my feet. And then we went into the bedroom and he proceeded to make love to me, so to speak,' she said.

Giuffre claimed Epstein paid her $15,000 the following day. "

Yet it says here:

"Giuffre tells NBC's Dateline she was forced to perform sex acts with Andrew when she was 17-years-old, after the British royal gave her vodka in a London nightclub."
edition.cnn.com/2019/09/20/uk/prince-and...-intl-gbr/index.html

From what she told the Mail, it doesn't sound as if she was forced to do anything. And if she was embarrassed to be dancing with a middle-aged man, why on earth would she go on to have sex with him? Sounds as if she hasn't worked her story out properly. I'm guessing the only thing close to the truth in this story is that she might have asked Epstein to take a photo of her and Andrew together.

So many unanswered questions to the Epstein saga. How were underage girls enticed to his home? "I know a wealthy middle-aged man who'd like you to give him massages". Doesn't sound very appealing to me. If they were "forced" to do so, and go further, how did that happen? How were they "trafficked"?

It sounds like just getting a bus somewhere is being trafficked these days.

It seems to me that the public generally believe that she was 'trafficked' in much the same way that they believe that Jimmy Savile was the worst abuser ever to walk this earth.

If a prince had come on to me and I thought I would get $15,000 the next day I'd probably have done the deed. I'd also have been smart enough to realise that I could say I'd been abused X years down the track and get a lot of money for media appearances and so on.

Not that I would have done the second bit, unless I was starving.

The overall big picture is far from anyones lips. Still.


Get on with it FFS.

I still say it's hogwash because people as high in the royal family like (randy) Andy have their choice of Sloane Rangers.

This woman was on the game. She can pretend she was a "child" but she was a prostitute.

I don't believe Andy would be so stupid and I don;t believe the Maxwell lady would set up such a scenario.

Just a whore trying to get some cash. ( have nothing against whores )

Must be nice for her family in Australia. Bet the kids are mad about the publicity. Not.

By the way.. as an old patron of Tramp the notion of Andrew buying drinks at the bar is ludicrous for many reasons.

hedda wrote:




( have nothing against whores )



Thank goodness!




She's about as innocent as a crook with their hands in the till!