But why give it to him?

www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/10728547/ma...am-heartless-ex-cop/

He is nothing but a Hoover for official fuck ups.
There may well be coppers giving a silent nod and wink for some of his projects which look to me as if they are diverting attention.
I am still waiting for Dorset Police to deal with my issue. Instead, all of my complaints were ignored and I was heavily silenced.
Well, they tried to. It didn't work.

Omar Benguit languishes in jail with Jeremy Bamber whilst the officials bide their time putting things right.
I'm disgusted, ashamed and angry at the whole of the freak show!

They can't blame any of it on austerity.

I have spent early morning hours writing today on a subject that isn't talked about as openly and mainstream as it should be.

Sex! Or more specifically, what society is doing wrong.
I'll put it out soon.

He seems to have it in for the McCanns. It was bad enough when he bleated his impossible theory about her wandering off (and calling her parents liars) but this just seems nasty for the sake of it.

Pretty heartless of Mary to say that about Madeline. Parents should be entitled to have hope.

what would this goose know about it?

I've never been a McCann skeptic and abhor all those creeps who accuse then on zilch proof.

As fore Bamber..the silencer seems to be a problem but also the fact there blood on it..but relatives had a pretty good reason to plant it.

.what is this claptrap:

"Mr Williams-Thomas, 49, who was worked on major missing persons cases but never Maddie’s, is convinced her case is “unsolvable”. 1 13 Jan 2020, 15:39Updated: 13 Jan 2020, 16:26

Absolute bullshit..
who buys the ghastly Sun for this claptrap?

and this: "Mr Williams-Thomas, 49,"

Wikipedia: Mark Alan Williams-Thomas (born 9 January 1970)[1][2]

ie: he's 50..Sun can't add up either.

and this:

Child prostitutes forced to cash-in on fans at Brazil World Cup - selling sex for £1.30
ByMark Williams-Thomas
22:00, 7 JUN 2014 Updated10:53, 10 JUN 2014
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/child-p...cash-in-fans-3660354

ie: MARY WAS 43 AT TIME OF WRITING.

yet:
"As a former detective and with ­nearly 30 years of experience in ­investigating child abuse, including the Jimmy Savile scandal, what I found in Brazil made me shudder."

30 years investigating child abuse?...what at age 13? THIRTEEN ?????

NOTE: Updated10:53, 10 JUN 2014 Had an opportunity to correct..pathological fibber?

People simply poke their noses in because they want to.
Investigative journalism is being stopped. Police are not prepared to take hearsay from 3rd parties or people with vengeance jealousy, spite etc. Professionals are resorting to using media for all sorts.
They won't get anywhere with it, so Police giving more money for the sake of their own jobs is quite sickening.

Those parents left those kids alone and one disappeared. It is that simple.
If it was a parent on a housing estate or a single parent they would possibly be in jail via all loopholes and tricks used in law to secure a prosecution for irresponsibility in a foreign country.

The bullshit just continues because of agendas.

Look at the information I hold on various issues and the attempts to ignore me and shut me down on social media. This has forced me to open up profiles in private mode and the hits on my blog are now growing. Every cloud.
Amongst the media are a bunch of spiteful bastards who will soon be fighting to keep their own kids when all criminality is exposed.
Some of it goes beyond abuse of power and worse.
The media surely wouldn't club together to target the one person who can hang them all, would they?
The cost of trying is serious.

I haven't spoken about the attempts of Media staff contacting me over the years and what was said.

The MSM are having a hard time now and the alternative media will follow. Maybe I will finally get to find out who accessed my social media account and put out comments making it look like I was slagging off royalty. Then there was the changing of my profile pictures across several platforms. The police were useless on that. So much for police and cybercrime.
Being as the efforts are desperate enough to hack me, I wouldn't be surprised if they are reading this.
Their problem isn't me – it is their own idiocy.

I have known the truth that the media haven't been honest about since the 1990s. I do not have to ask why they would go to extremes to ignore or ridicule me.
I will shut the lot of them down along with alternative tossers just by knowing the things I know.

AllI have to do is wait and keep telling my story.

hedda wrote:
As fore Bamber..the silencer seems to be a problem but also the fact there blood on it..but relatives had a pretty good reason to plant it.
Anyone planting the silencer would surely have needed to have enough forensic nous to contaminate it with blood. Seems a bit of a stretch to me unless one is convinced of Bamber's innocence and trying to make things fit.

I remember seeing a photo of Bamber at the funeral and thinking there was something fake about his demeanour, as if he was putting on a show of looking sad. Also in stark contrast to other mourners around him. (photos)

His Wikipedia page says "his extended family remain convinced of his guilt", referencing a Sunday Times magazine article. Unless one believes that they conspired against him one would think they'd be among the people most familiar with his and his sister's characters and with the facts of the case. Bob Woffinden apparently went from thinking he was innocent to being convinced of his guilt (source).

As for MWT, who has supposedly been in touch with Bamber, I wouldn't be surprised if Bamber was "playing" him, as was my impression in the first few episodes of MWT's Investigator series when he was corresponding with convicted murderer Russell Causley. Perhaps he has fallen for Bamber's charm. ("His former brother-in-law Colin Caffell, Sheila's ex-husband and father of murdered Nicholas and Daniel, six, said Bamber was "charismatic" and "charming". He said: "He was incredibly charismatic and I am sure he is just as charming today as he was then. "Psychopaths, and while I am not an expert I think he is one, are naturally charismatic." BBC)

From the appeal court judgment:

"The condition of Sheila Caffell's body and her clothing 47. The firearms officers who were the first to see her body noted that her feet and hands were "perfectly clean". Her fingernails were well manicured and not broken and there were no marks or indentations on any of her fingers. All her fingertips were clean and free from any blood, dirt or powder and there appeared to be no trace of any lead dust or coating which is usual when handling .22 ammunition.

48. The act of loading the magazine of an automatic weapon (carried out at least twice in this case) would be expected to leave visible traces of the lubricant and the materials from the bullets on the hands.

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.

50. Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Significantly higher traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead."

Jo wrote:
hedda wrote:
As fore Bamber..the silencer seems to be a problem but also the fact there blood on it..but relatives had a pretty good reason to plant it.
Anyone planting the silencer would surely have needed to have enough forensic nous to contaminate it with blood. Seems a bit of a stretch to me unless one is convinced of Bamber's innocence and trying to make things fit.

I remember seeing a photo of Bamber at the funeral and thinking there was something fake about his demeanour, as if he was putting on a show of looking sad. Also in stark contrast to other mourners around him. (photos)

His Wikipedia page says "his extended family remain convinced of his guilt", referencing a Sunday Times magazine article. Unless one believes that they conspired against him one would think they'd be among the people most familiar with his and his sister's characters and with the facts of the case. Bob Woffinden apparently went from thinking he was innocent to being convinced of his guilt (source).

As for MWT, who has supposedly been in touch with Bamber, I wouldn't be surprised if Bamber was "playing" him, as was my impression in the first few episodes of MWT's Investigator series when he was corresponding with convicted murderer Russell Causley. Perhaps he has fallen for Bamber's charm. ("His former brother-in-law Colin Caffell, Sheila's ex-husband and father of murdered Nicholas and Daniel, six, said Bamber was "charismatic" and "charming". He said: "He was incredibly charismatic and I am sure he is just as charming today as he was then. "Psychopaths, and while I am not an expert I think he is one, are naturally charismatic." BBC)

From the appeal court judgment:

"The condition of Sheila Caffell's body and her clothing 47. The firearms officers who were the first to see her body noted that her feet and hands were "perfectly clean". Her fingernails were well manicured and not broken and there were no marks or indentations on any of her fingers. All her fingertips were clean and free from any blood, dirt or powder and there appeared to be no trace of any lead dust or coating which is usual when handling .22 ammunition.

48. The act of loading the magazine of an automatic weapon (carried out at least twice in this case) would be expected to leave visible traces of the lubricant and the materials from the bullets on the hands.

49. DC Hammersley, the Scenes of Crimes Officer placed plastic bags over Sheila Caffell's hands and feet before her body was removed from the farmhouse. He saw some blood staining to the back of the right hand, but apart from that the hands, to his eye were clean and the nails intact. The deceased's feet were also free from blood staining and from any debris such as sugar.

50. Following removal of the bags at the mortuary, Sheila Caffell's hands and forehead were swabbed. Extremely low traces of lead were detected when the swabs were examined. Such levels being consistent with the levels found from the handling of every day things around the house. These results were compared to hand swabs taken from volunteers at the laboratory who were required to load the magazine with eighteen rounds of ammunition. Significantly higher traces of lead were found than those recorded on the hands of Mrs Caffell. The scientist Mr Elliott gave evidence that if Sheila Caffell had loaded eighteen cartridges into a magazine he would have expected the hand swabs to have revealed appreciably higher deposits of lead."


The problem is that the things which (probably correctly) indicate that Sheila Cafell was the culprit, don't appear to prove beyond doubt that it was Jeremy Bamber who did it instead.

Psychopaths and narcissists are just as likely as anyone else to have awful things happen to their families. (applies to the McCanns too)

As for evidence.

Best watch this...
The only thing that I'd like to query is the nail varnish forensics. Did The forensics compare the flakes found in the kitchen to samples taken from her feet?
Otherwise, those red flakes could have been from the scratched area in kitchen found by the family.
So, when were the (supposed) nail varnish flakes found? Before or after the scratched on the kitchen paintwork which were said to be on the silencer.

Oh, and why put a silencer back in a bag when they could have dumped it anywhere in the house?

The upstairs window was slightly open.
Yet we see a whole concoction of a story around the kitchen window which was impossible to get out of leaving both the latch on the long arm latch on the hooks.
We used to have those windows in our old house and it CANNOT be done from the outside.

The gun in the upstairs window seems odd. A huge mistake to make by someone who would be carefully planning a murder. As for the incomplete closing of it, I know it would have been difficult to climb out and close the window without having anything to balance on. Why not close it all the way up?

Here's the video anyway which conflicts with other posters comments...


youtu.be/0hAarqiSwbY

a true psychopath cannot hide their real self for long as they simply have no idea what real empathy is,

So Jo..instinct can be a very strong indicator..and it seems a couple of detectives thought likewise..didn't he tell some bad jokes after?

as I say if you have ever dealt with a true psychopath ( don't do it..run run run ) they can mimic emotions but that's all they are doing and can't keep up the game.

### It was very sad to read of the father of those poor little boys recently..a forgotten figure in all this and a real victim.

Honey wrote:
The problem is that the things which (probably correctly) indicate that Sheila Cafell was the culprit, don't appear to prove beyond doubt that it was Jeremy Bamber who did it instead.

Psychopaths and narcissists are just as likely as anyone else to have awful things happen to their families. (applies to the McCanns too)
Perhaps you meant to write "indicate that Sheila Caffell wasn't the culprit"?

This is also from the appeal court judgment:

"7. The police were first alerted that something out of the ordinary had occurred when they received a telephone call from the appellant. The call was logged at 3.36 a.m. but there was evidence that made clear that it must have been at least 10 minutes earlier. The caller was the appellant and having given his name and address he said:

"You've got to help me. My father has rang me and said "Please come over. Your sister has gone crazy and has got the gun." Then the line went dead." "

If what Jeremy Bamber told the police was true, then it seems very strange that the sister had no gunshot residue/grease/lead on her hands. If it wasn't true, was it because the father was lying? Why would the father lie? Or was it because Jeremy Bamber was lying? Who is more likely to have lied? It seems only logical that the liar was Jeremy Bamber and that he did so to divert attention from the real killer. It seems highly unlikely that someone would come up with a story to divert the police away from a person other than themselves, especially with the inheritance motive.

"30. Having walked to the house from the lane there was further conversation. The appellant told the police that Sheila Caffell could use a gun. He said they had gone target shooting together and she had used all the guns in the house before. In the light of what they were told the uniformed officers requested armed assistance before any attempt to search the house was made. The appellant dictated a list of the firearms kept at the house. He told the police that he had loaded the .22 automatic rifle the previous night because he thought he had heard rabbits outside. He said he had left the gun on the kitchen table with a full magazine and a box of ammunition nearby. Those who saw the appellant at the scene at that time described him as remarkably calm. At some stage during their conversations that morning PC Myall and the appellant spoke about motor cars. The appellant said that the Osea Road Caravan Site company, "would be able to stand him a Porsche" car at some point during the year.:

How does one "hear rabbits" outside when inside a house? Must require bat-like hearing. And why, especially with people familiar with guns in the house who know how to load them, would anyone leave a loaded gun and ammunition lying around? Was this a story thought up because he knew Sheila didn't know how to load a gun and play into the story of her picking it up and going berserk? If he was able to dictate a list of firearms at the house, he was clearly very familiar with them.

Besides the lack of firearm residues on the sister, her ex husband says in this first interview (around 6:30) that she didn't know how to use a rifle and that her medication would have eliminated the hand/eye coordination necessary, that the killings had used a marksman's skill, and in the second (around 4:00) that Jeremy Bamber had been larking around after the killings/funeral.

I presume they shot rabbits for stew?
A gun left around in a farmhouse isn't that unusual.

I see they are wheeling out the relatives again. Doesn't convince me.

A media with all the shit they've done trying to seek justice.
Seriously, officials are more sickening for allowing it all and still ducking and diving themselves.

Still, they will be the biggest benefited when they are finally shut down.
Everyone else gets shafted.

Jeremy Bamber's relatives spotted chilling sign at funeral that proved his guilt

Chimes with my first impression of the photos of him at the funeral: putting on an exaggerated show of grief that contrasted sharply with other mourners around him.

I think the relatives are most likely right. People who were closest to him and knew him best. The alternative is a conspiracy theory with everyone out to get Jeremy.

A true psychopath has no feelings of empathy or sympathy because it is stripped out of them. They can and do kill and care not one iota.
They get away with it too.
Because it is their job!

I did mean to say "indicate that Sheila Caffell wasn't the culprit".

Rabbits can be quite noisy, and the back door would have been open because it was a very hot August.

Does anyone remember how they decided that Sheila Cafell didnt pull the trigger with her foot or the bible?

Or how they knew that the father's injuries were not from a third party who may or may not have shot all or some of the family?

There is a world of difference between Jeremy Bamber being the most likely to be guilty, and being beyond all reasonable doubt in a fair trial.

I am undecided.

Bookworm wrote:
A true psychopath has no feelings of empathy or sympathy because it is stripped out of them. They can and do kill and care not one iota.
They get away with it too.
Because it is their job!

psychopaths never have empathy to begin with.

and they can mimic human emotions very well.

some are extremely intelligent and become top businessmen or leaders ( Hitler an extreme example who attracted numerous more around him and set Germany on a collision course with the world that was always bound to end in failure. Note- to his last minute Hitler blamed everyone else except himself.).

After WW2 the US Government commissioned extensive studies into their own army, better to understand the make-up..

They found the amount of true psychopaths made up about 6% of the US forces..with 20% of infantry being able to kill the enemy with steely determinations..40 to 60% able to shoot the enemy but suffering terribly mentally afterwards and about 10% who just couldn't kill anyone so shot above the enemies heads.

The psychopaths were so dangerous as that kill without remorse including their fellow soldiers as they saw no different between them and the enemy.

Of course not all psychopaths are killers but the the general feeling among shrinks is once you realise you are dealing with one..flee, run a way, their means of destruction are infinite and no-one can ever beat them at their game.

## One I dealt with over 15 years ago brought down a very good profitable business through his efforts and I heard recently he involved himself in some legal dispute and cost the person whose side he took over a quarter of a million $$ in cost and a huge mental loss.

I'd recommend Jon Ronson's book on Psychopaths but I've gone off him..but it's very good.

## one thing re the Farmhouse..didn't they - the police- say they saw a figure inside at th beginning?

Has Jeremy Bamnber been examined by psychiatrists?..of course even if he's a psycho he can be innocent.

Jeremy passed many lie detector tests. Obviously they are not admissible in court.


You have somebody like Jeremy who is accused of killing his own family. Therefore it can be concluded he was only a danger to them.

On the other hand, you could have somebody who is an explosive type who kills somebody because of an argument or road rage incident. Should those types be let loose in public?
Or a dodgy official who doesn't like the truth and abuses power to cause harm to those who know. That is dangerous.
Yes, it does go on. Evidenced in their reluctance to own up.

Some people never so much as see a pair of handcuffs whilst officials claim to be looking after the nation. MI5 have just over 4,000 employees (looking after nearly 70 million?) The BBC have 6,000 employees staff.

Go figure.

As for officials trying to find criminals and killers, maybe they should test their abilities to find a G-spot first before they send them out looking for anything?

Give me the job of being their model to practice on!

hedda wrote:

## one thing re the Farmhouse..didn't they - the police- say they saw a figure inside at th beginning?
Some info here:

"Police initially believed Jeremy’s story about the desperate call from his father. Jeremy joined them outside the farmhouse and at one point they thought they saw someone move in an upstairs window, although this was later dismissed as a trick of the light. ....

Yet as detectives dug deeper, things didn’t add up. Despite his tears at the funeral, officers claimed Jeremy had seemed remarkably calm outside the farmhouse. After the bodies were discovered, he had made himself a breakfast of bacon, toast and coffee before giving a statement.

There was also the small matter of the inheritance – a fortune worth £1.3m in today’s money, the farmhouse, family business and 300 acres of land that, with his parents and sister dead, all went to Jeremy."

Bamber murders: The definitive account

"At one point we thought we saw someone moving in the house but when we checked, it was the moon's reflection in the window."

Chilling ways Jeremy Bamber convinced first police officer on scene he was guilty

Jeremy Bamber can only be innocent if his sister is guilty, as he was the source of the information that his father had told him she had gone berserk with a gun. But there's the condition of her body and her clothing, i.e. hands/nails unscathed, no gun or ammunition residue on her or anyone else's blood on her clothes (paras 47 onwards).

I dont think he has ever been diagnosed with anything, so the suggestion he is a psychopath is based on the crime.

I don't think it is unusual for people to either not show emotion (and sometimes fake it) or behave inappropriately, even when the deceased is much loved and missed.
Grief and shock do strange things to the mind, and it sometimes hits us much later.

Fill in the blank...


Mark Williams Thomas Must Have Attention Deficit Disorder ?

Or maybe he's just a fantasist.