Small mouth; small mind. I'm sorry to repeat personal observations (and God knows I've had enough comments on my own beautiful lips). I prefer Emily Thornberry. But no problem for me; I'd have voted for Corbyn, honest and decent, but otherwise have no intention of ever voting again. Democracy doesn't work.

By voting for Corbyn - you would have supported:-


- a united Ireland

- public ownership of energy companies

- rationalisation of the railways

- an arms embargo on Israel

- free education

- reducing the trade deficit/National Debt, by taxing the wealthy

- giving Gibraltar to Spain; Falklands to Argentina


Never had you down as such a radical...

Just goes to show; never assume. I'd have taken the negatives in order to let a different section have a go. It hasn't worked in the past but a Corbyn government (with a LibDem deputy controlling extremism as Clegg did with Cameron) might have worked.

renationalisation*

JK2006 wrote:
a Corbyn government (with a LibDem deputy controlling extremism as Clegg did with Cameron) might have worked.


But what's wrong with our chosen government - democratically elected, with an 80 seat majority?

Who quickly carried our the wishes of the people - in leaving the European Union in a few days time.

You say that democracy doesn't work - but it's the only game in town; and a system with which the electorate is comfortable.

The chances of most of Corbyn's policies actually happening was so slim that it was quite reasonable if voters ignored them.

Barney wrote:
By voting for Corbyn - you would have supported:-


- a united Ireland

- public ownership of energy companies

- rationalisation of the railways

- an arms embargo on Israel

- free education

- reducing the trade deficit/National Debt, by taxing the wealthy

- giving Gibraltar to Spain; Falklands to Argentina


Never had you down as such a radical...




radical? Really? I'd call it conservative..you know when the British government owned the railways (they went everywhere) All Irish people surely entitled to be of one country, free education .. as it was under Margaret Thatcher etc etc

Nothing radical about Jeremy Corbyn..in fact I'd call him an old fashioned Conservative.

## Corbyn is the only UK politician since Nye Bevan who has started a movement. Hedda predicts that as 100,000s of young Brits become of voting age over the next 5 years Corbynism will become almost a religion.

### at least 10 million Corbynites to date...millions more will join the Church of Jeremy when the Tories break their hearts after they voted Brexit.

Of course Brexit may be a fabulous success and also...

Emily is shit-hot at her role and she gets the bigger picture which many are still ignorant or reluctant to see. She needs to stop being drawn into pathetic crap though. We see these professionals being reduced to very pitiful states when they lower their standards.

I love a woman with balls.

A united Ireland will be better for the country and the UK. It could do with banishing a few though.

hedda wrote:
All Irish people surely entitled to be of one country

Even if the majority don't want it? As recent polls have shown.

And as a united Ireland simply couldn't work, economically.


Northern Ireland costs the UK Exchequer, £1 billion every month - just to pay its bills.

The Republic of Ireland has a National Debt of over €230 billion.


Interest alone on the RoI Debt is €15 million a month! RoI can barely pay its way, presently.

Hospital trollies are more numerous around Ireland, than anywhere else in Europe.



Pure economics have taken over from illogical dreams.

Because Ireland has no real industry and will, therefore, support the EU - without any doubts or realistic options.


RoI will be damaged more than any other EU country, by Brexit.

80% of its beef and dairy produce comes here; your BigMac originated in Cork!



Even if the EU members agree - in the future - that the island of Ireland should have one government.

They will wilt when the sums are done.



Merging Ireland too - is like making Spain and France the same country!

Impossible - different cultures, history, people, religions, customs, thinking, heritage etc.


Languages too...

Barney wrote:
Interest alone on the RoI Debt is €15 million a month!

a day*....

Barney wrote:
Barney wrote:
Interest alone on the RoI Debt is €15 million a month!

a day*....




Barney, are you ok? I'm a bit worried because you have made two typos in one day and usually you are very precise.
Take care of yourself please.

Thanks for your concern Honey


Some of my posts are simply to try to generate - correction, argument, retorts, disagreement, new information, facts, different approaches, advice, thinking, analyses, philosophies, theories, predictions, experiences, allegiances etc


However they rarely do...

Barney wrote:
Thanks for your concern Honey


Some of my posts are simply to try to generate - correction, argument, retorts, disagreement, new information, facts, different approaches, advice, thinking, analyses, philosophies, theories, predictions, experiences, allegiances etc


However they rarely do...




They are always interesting, and I am always glad to read them.

I have never heard or seen this Polly.
How she could win the campaign is beyond me. Still, it's only left to members to vote.Thats how Boris ended up where he is and shows all that is wrong.
Politics lately is like eating two day old Birthday cake. You'd think it would be better.
Still, some things are taken for granted!

Barney wrote:
By voting for Corbyn - you would have supported:-


- a united Ireland

- public ownership of energy companies

- rationalisation of the railways

- an arms embargo on Israel

- free education

- reducing the trade deficit/National Debt, by taxing the wealthy

- giving Gibraltar to Spain; Falklands to Argentina


Never had you down as such a radical...




I don't think that Corbyn's plans were radical. His suggested higher rate of income tax is 30-40% lower than that which existed in 1973 under Edward Heath's conservative government. I don't think that people are going to start packing their bags to leave the country because they have to pay 1-2% more tax.
As for Nationalising railways and energy companies, I think that this could be a good idea. Energy companies act as a cartel, working together to agree higher prices and the customer always gets ripped off. Some of the best train companies in the world are nationalised. France, Germany, and Japan have nationalised rail services, all far ahead of our own.

I think Labour's real problem was trying to overturn the biggest democratic vote ever and implying that working class people were either racist or stupid for voting for Brexit. Also they need to get rid of all this woke nonsense and gender identity politics. All female shortlists and trans self identification. Labour has become a party for young middle class metropolitan liberals and that is never going to win elections.