Despite the fact that evidence mounts that this is a trivial virus (for 95%), media still loves the "plague" agenda. In the UK, Government hails totally absurd Nightingale Hospitals and ridiculous bent "tests" collapse as "proof of success" of the lockdown. Ridiculous.

It's just more proof of over reaction. Media inflation of the Wuhan virus concentrates on the thousands dead from conditions exacerbated by Covid19. But hundreds of thousands die every day for various reasons.

Most Covid victims recover, just like Flu.

The lockdown may not have saved a single life. No lockdown in South Korea. 250 dead. Lockdown in Greece. 147 dead. Semi lockdown in Taiwan. 6 dead.

The Death Four countries have about 30,000 deaths each. That accounts for 120,000.
USA (with huge 330 million population) has 80,000.
Apart from those (200,000), the rest of the world has about 50,000 deaths spread amongst all countries. THAT is a trivial virus.
Less than 10,000 deaths in the worst affected other countries.

What on earth did UK, Italy, France & Spain do wrong? Why are their deaths TRIPLE other badly hit countries?

Answer: because they fell for the media hype, over reacted, believed "stop the spread" instead of protecting & treating the vulnerable 5% - far easier to do, far less damaging to society.

But media still prefers the "plague" agenda and inflates it daily, influencing policies without any depth of thought or analysis.

RT news say over a million people have recovered from it, yet they still pushing a scary story. Sky News is a joke, they have scientist's who are experts fields are in gender and hormones, they hide the fact they are also in the Democratic Party. I love how media use soundbites and mute out what is said after or beforehand.

I can't see much on BBC because they are a waste of time, might as well be called the Momentum Broadcast Company.

If you have to spend ages online hearing the other arguments from the other side then broadcast news pointless.

Jim Acosta is not a journalist he is an activist.

Green Man, agree with you re BBC up to now but try the link below - main item on BBC news site this morning.

This is great news the tide is def turning..They could almost be quoting JK at one point...

"Our constant focus on the most negative impacts of the epidemic means we have lost sight of the fact that the illness causes a mild to moderate illness for many..." Dr AB....

The expert says we must stop looking at the virus through such a "narrow lens" and look at impact of lockdown.

Coincidence Boris is set to start rolling back at the weekend...?


www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52543692

I always look at Covid 19 like cancer if you're going to get you're going to get it. It's ridiculous closing shops whilst supermarkets are open. Some people are forgetting about social distancing in supermarkets anyway.

I had to resort using a bus, for first time in a while again bus queues were like sardines. Passengers were either behind me whilst some were just coughing and sneezing.

World Health Organisation are boot licking China and we are still buying from them.

Depth of though or analysis aren’t very popular though. Scare stories are strangely attractive and addictive. Economic scare stories will gradually replace the virus scare stories.

Make no mistake, this is a serious disease; there have been over 120% more deaths than normal at this time of year in the UK. If you are susceptible and get it, the effects are as bad as Ebola. Without doubt there would have been far more deaths if we had not had a countrywide lockdown, and instead opted for trying to identify and protect the vulnerable; the vulnerable "5%", if indeed that is the figure, are not easy to locate and by the time our government started taking action, it was far too late to act in that way. Both Cheltenham Races and an international football match in Liverpool were allowed to go ahead, which pushed the exponential ability of the virus to spread into overdrive. At that point the only option was a full scale lockdown.

Also, another factor to consider is how accurately figures are being reported around the world, especially in the more authoritarian countries.

By the way, the ratios for Sweden and Norway are currently as follows: Sweden 2,941 to Norway 216; that's 13.6 greater in Sweden, or on a pro-rata basis a factor of 6.8 !

Explain Greece. Explain Germany. Explain South Korea. Explain New Zealand. Explain Taiwan.

Green Man wrote:
It's ridiculous closing shops whilst supermarkets are open


Ridiculous - why?


Supermarkets provide over 95% of our food.

Greece is a country made up of thousands of islands to which it is easy to block ferries and flights. Germany did have a lockdown put in place exactly like ours the day before, combined with widespread testing and a far greater number of ICUs.

For the full story, click here.

Who did what and when:

Reasons reasons reasons - there is one clear reason; CoronaVirus is nowhere near as dangerous as Media have inflated. For nearly every country in the world - trivial. How different countries deal with it has a lot to do with how many infected then die but only 4 countries in the world have had that problem.

I agree from the evidence with the various doctors who have written here that Covid 19 is vicious, and is most likely on the level with the worst flu epidemics or more so in the last decades. I have been surprised. BJ certainly illitrates how nasty it can be. Pronce Charles seemed to have recovered in next to no time.

I agree with JK overall things have blown out of all proportion and now at this stage difficult for countries to change direction and admit lockdown did not work for the epicenter of the disease. And it is possible that in UK, France, Italy.... the virus' impact has done it worst and it is time to get everything back and up and running. Lockdown did not prevent the terrible spread.It failed. Ok one still must try or consider the options.

Epicenter seems to be consistence eith flu in general. Begins in the winter and starts where the Covid 19 developed it's spread like wild fire. Then out from there(read up on general flu spreading) .

Wuhan is noted by all and the media as the origin, which it could be. But what seems to be known is there is highly developed lab in Wuhan that first detected Covid, so at this stage better to say first detected would be more accurate with the known facts to date unless one is prepared to believe in an unreliable witess. The spread in Eurpoe must raise the question did it start in France or Italy the main countries to receive the full onslaught initially are all centered around France. Germany seemed to have missed the flow but Sweden got a full dose. But geographically it is the countries centered around France.
It is not fair to question the UK government reaction initially as these things are "a hard call". And Dr Doom in all fairness to him was giving a "worst case" senario. Maybe other experts could of examined his conclusions in order to check if a consenus "objectively" could agree the possibility of the worst case or if the figures should of been higher or lower.

I think in all these things when mishandled or at a later time to admit the action did not work as hoped (does not equal wrong to try) then ideally it would help to have objective governments and experts.
The media could help by raising the questions. Governmetn could help by putting one expert against another and viewing known facts.

Mishandled agree JK the media regrettably just want a great story, but mishamdling includes many others not just the media.

I now realise a lot is known and can be tested amazingly and in volume re thses virus. At the same time (not admitted) much remains unknown as well.

Thus I feel we as a people have now many more questions than answers.

I can not personally wait until lockdown is lifted. (I am been unfair as I am at the otherside of Covid 19 but the WHO are playing it safe telling me I cannot be smug as I may well be able to be reinfected.)

Barney wrote:
Green Man wrote:
It's ridiculous closing shops whilst supermarkets are open


Ridiculous - why?


Supermarkets provide over 95% of our food.





If you're going to get then you're going to get the virus.

We should of just carried on as normal.

We can queue outside supermarkets and walk past people as we get in the stores. Yet we couldn't get a coffee to takeaway.

I only see a few people obeying the 2 metre rule anyway... most people are doing their own thing.

There's so much conflicting information and we still don't know if the masks actually work. Why do people believe everything on the news?