Melania gets Covid. I've always thought (since I got it in early March, when only those close to death were being tested) that almost all of us have had or still have Covid19. The more quantity of tests, the more positives. 99% affect not at all or mildly. Protect and treat the vulnerable I said (in March). That was why I ordered a reusable, expensive, triple filter mask back in January. I'm 75 and diabetic. Vulnerable. So I took precautions. Still do. Common sense, so sadly lacking in the loonies. Who continue to believe the media. Which rarely prints the other illness daily death rates, let alone interviews with sobbing relatives.

Cancer death's have gone up because they were not getting chemotherapy or radiotherapy.

I wonder how many people who claimed to have Covid, went to the hospital found out to have a only funny nose or hayfever ?

I said before in a previous post; I was talking to a bloke in a pub. Whom relative died of lung disease died in hospital but they put Covid 19 as the cause of death.

Yes, Like you, I am vulnerable so right from the start I got protective masks, and I antibac every time I touch something outside, and stand back from people. This is all we need.

I cant understand why they are closing businesses down and locking people up instead of just EXPLAINING the importance of hygiene, over and over until people get the hang of it.

You cant have a "covid safe" office, pub, theatre, or anything if people cross infect and ignore precautions. It is a farce.


Yesterday I got a taxi home after shopping. The driver was telling me how worried he was about catching it, and how he cant wait for the vaccine etc.

But then he stroked my dog's head, which is covered in my hand sweat and saliva because I am always kissing him,(dog not driver!) and rubbed his eyes straight after.

So for him, there was obviously no connection in his mind between his behaviour and his chance of catching the virus, and I see similar things every day.

I suppose being dictated to by the government, and having them take away freedom and livelihoods will have made people feel powerless and passive, and happy for other people to take responsibility for their health?

You mention theatres. I'm getting lot's of email alerts from Ents24, is it actually worth buying tickets for next year ?

lot of madness going on with some sensible people believing Trump's diagnosis is a scam to avoid debates, recover quickly and declare Covid is NOT serious ( a bit like JK )

I tend to think it's real although Trump's entire history has been one of making claims for short term gain that in the end seem to cost him a fortune (although like all con artists he makes a fortune out of his bankruptcies and still owes MOI $3000 )

It would be a YUGE risk to perpetuate such a scam.

It's pretty clear the the Democrats will claim power in both Houses and this makes life difficult for Trump.

If it were discovered- and it always comes out- he would be really impeached this time for perpetuating such a scam ( and may well be impeached anyway) and if impeached and forced to handover to Pence, probably face serious criminal charges.

If Pence were found to have known Trump (and the ghastly Melania) were faking he would be impeached as well.

Step forward president Nancy Pelosi.

2 scenarios:

1. Trump has Covid and despite JK's claim Covid isn't serious , Trump is a bloody unhealthy man. Fat arsed, overweight, high blood pressure and very probably a minor stroke (as can be seen by his right side..unable to hold a glass and so much film showing an obvious problem with that side- very stroke like.

I've always thought as many in the know claim, Trump's activeness is artificially fueled by Aderall and some are even saying his madness at the first debate was because they wouldn't let him have any.

# Several journalists attending his rallies say while Trump can be on fire he also has incredible slumps of energy for maybe ten minutes..all evidence of Aderall use.

I don't criticize him on that AS I WANT SOME BLOODY ADERALL AS WELL AS I SUFFER LOTS OF FATIGUE AND THEY DON'T DISPENSE THE FRIGGING STUFF IN AUSTRALIA. (ok i'LL TAKE A vALIUM INSTEAD)

The problem is that if he gets better doctors now say many suffer serious ongoing problems. This isn't you and I , it's the President of the US who must be healthy and if he's not, a clear line of succession is in place.

Democrats would have the legal power (not that means much today) to demand Trump has A real independent medical checkup. The Constitution is strong on all this.

This would also show whether he really had it or not. So many risks for a "scam" but then trump is for the short term game like most grifters.

2. It really is a scam and Trump will announce he is resigning in December (whether he wins or not) and hands over to Pence who grants him immunity for any possible crime (as Nixon was pardoned by Gerald Ford from future prosecution).

Trump's illness is a game changer for the US election.

If he recovers quickly, he'll be proved right about the virus and be a folk hero.

Should he become very ill, he'll have misjudged the pandemic.

Right/recovery means reelection. Wrong means a Biden presidency.

And the end for Trump - politicaly at least.

hedda wrote:
Step forward president Nancy Pelosi.
Funnily enough, watching her speaking on TV the other day, I was wondering what she'd be like as president. She's what appears now to be deemed about the right age - 80 - and seems quite energetic.

As for Trump's diagnosis, the news was bad enough after the Biden/Trump debate: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Biden, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, etc.

Now it's: Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, etc.

Ugh...

Media full of how much more likely to die of Covid19 older people are than young people. I'm so delighted media is pointing this out. I always thought the older you were, the less likely to die. Not. Doh.

This could get interesting. I think Boris had mild symptoms to start...Trump is also clinically obese like Boris and a lot older. He is also said to have an appalling diet; but doesn't smoke...However he is a very peculiar orange colour, which I can't explain.

It may all hinge on whether he has been taking his vitamin D.....

I don't think the orange is anything to do with Vitamins or Health wyot; makeup.

JK2006 wrote:
[quote]I don't think the orange is anything to do with Vitamins or Health wyot; makeup.[/quelanote]

I hadn't considered that he actually thought that was a good look...!

middlemas wrote:
Trump's illness is a game changer for the US election.

If he recovers quickly, he'll be proved right about the virus and be a folk hero.

Should he become very ill, he'll have misjudged the pandemic.

Right/recovery means reelection. Wrong means a Biden presidency.

And the end for Trump - political y at least.


Now that Trump has gone to hospital it basically blows out of the water that he's faking.

No doctor or nurse would go along with it. (serious criminality)

Despite Doctor JK's sweeping medical diagnosis (his degree was issued by TV's wacky "Dr" Oz) there can be no way of assessing Trump's medical condition. He may well deteriorate rapidly especially with his listed ailments.

I read one journalist's analysis of The Debate and he commented on how bloody healthy Biden looks at 77..slim. naturally tanned and still jogging everyday where as Trump looked bloated and seriously overweight cleverly disguised with that orange make=up.

He had no make-up as left for the hospital today..with many saying "oh look how sick he is" but that's rubbish. What they saw was the real Trump who has a really bad pallor reflecting his health.

And why wouldn't he be unhealthy? He has shocking diet for his age.

But of course he may recover quickly but sensible folk will take my previous post seriously.

It's not a natter of Trump sailing out of hospital back to work. He has to be proven fit just as , while it wasn't reported, Ronald Reagan had to go through a battery of tests after being shot. And it was the Repubs & Democrats who jointly demanded it.

The Line of Succession was added to The Constitution for the very reason a sick man cannot be president when he is in charge of nuclear weapons.

## JFK of course went through his presidency popping numerous drugs and wore a girdle for his serious debilitating back disease that, if he hadn't been assassinated, would have killed him within 10 years.

Nurse Hedda wrote:
[quote]middlemas wrote:
What they saw was the real Trump who has a really bad pallor reflecting his health.

If Trump dies "with Covid" it is his creditors who will have a bad pallor.

He is in hundreds of millions of pounds of debt (which incidentally would bar anyone in this country working as a copper let alone PM because of the risk of blackmail and influence).

And he has a history of stiffing people.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platfor...rns-debts-owes-money