Many countries are introducing passports and other methods of ensuring that travellers, and visitors to hospitality venues, have been inoculated.

Although safety and discrimination raise conflicting issues - and no country makes vaccination compulsory. With 'no job-no jab' having a mixed reception.

Pregnant women and those with allergies - and immune problems - are often advised not to have the vaccine. And nobody wants to discriminate against these - unless there's no alternative.

Normality must resume, and those inoculated have a valid expectation of going about their daily business - without fear (as far as is possible) of infection, by those unwilling or unable to be vaccinated.

Some method(s) of evidencing the vaccination status of individuals is inevitable - and these will add to the fast growing travel complications.

Laschet wrote:


Pregnant women and those with allergies - and immune problems - are often advised not to have the vaccine. And nobody wants to discriminate against these - unless there's no alternative.


Unless there is no altenative....

So glad you don't run the country Laschet
...

Laschet wrote:
Many countries are introducing passports and other methods of ensuring that travellers, and visitors to hospitality venues, have been inoculated.

Although safety and discrimination raise conflicting issues - and no country makes vaccination compulsory. With 'no job-no jab' having a mixed reception.

Pregnant women and those with allergies - and immune problems - are often advised not to have the vaccine. And nobody wants to discriminate against these - unless there's no alternative.

Normality must resume, and those inoculated have a valid expectation of going about their daily business - without fear (as far as is possible) of infection, by those unwilling or unable to be vaccinated.

Some method(s) of evidencing the vaccination status of individuals is inevitable - and these will add to the fast growing travel complications.

If you want to go about your business, Barney, just do it!

What makes you think people with allergies are not discriminated against? It happens all the time and is accepted as perfectly ok.

Laschet wrote:
Many countries are introducing passports and other methods of ensuring that travellers, and visitors to hospitality venues, have been inoculated.

Although safety and discrimination raise conflicting issues - and no country makes vaccination compulsory. With 'no job-no jab' having a mixed reception.

Pregnant women and those with allergies - and immune problems - are often advised not to have the vaccine. And nobody wants to discriminate against these - unless there's no alternative.

Normality must resume, and those inoculated have a valid expectation of going about their daily business - without fear (as far as is possible) of infection, by those unwilling or unable to be vaccinated.

Some method(s) of evidencing the vaccination status of individuals is inevitable - and these will add to the fast growing travel complications.

Oh, just Fuck OFF with your cruel rhetoric !!

No one should be discriminated under any circumstances you dullard...many disabilities are hidden, should I ask someone with cancer if they are exempt from wearing a mask ? Just to add more agony and misery to the individual. I wear the green laynard now because they masks were causing havoc to my glasses and sinuses. I am not scared challenging a stranger or some Covid marshal in a uniform either who walks like Gary Cooper who has shit their pants - I have dealt with bigger cornflakes in my lifetime.

This is the danger we now face: creeping interference and totalitarianism.

Millions like Barney/Laschat - who I am sure are perfectly well meaning and reasonable otherwise - after a year of propaganda and fear are willing to consider discrimination for the "greater good" of zero Covid. In other words, for ideology and utopia.

Drag the pregnant and those with learning difficulties off the streets, strap them down and jab them. Sad to upset them; but it is for the greater good. Hitler had lots of ideas along these lines. We are foolish to just casually give away freedoms; however small they may seem.

This is why it is right that a growing group of Tories are saying we must be fully opened up by May not June. With deaths, hospital admissions and infections free falling and the most vulnerable vaccinated there is no excuse for one more day of this.

Covid is effectively over now as a "medical drama" and must not be allowed to become a political one.

Take those freedoms seriously everyone. Read and understand history. Go easy on those who have been brainwashed and frightened for a year; but hard as hell on totalitarianist doctrine wherever there is a hint or suggestion it is unwittingly being given breath.

We have destroyed our economy, killed tens of thousands and ruined the prospects of a generation on a media-inflated false premis. A good story. Let's resist the further damage of permanently losing the way of life we take for granted. Love humanity and life; not fear and propaganda.

Sweden went the other way (as Boris and Matt praise their response). Incidentally let's remember the AstroZ vaccine was a combination of Oxford and... SWEDEN.

Wyot wrote:
This is the danger we now face: creeping interference and totalitarianism.

Millions like Barney/Laschat - who I am sure are perfectly well meaning and reasonable otherwise - after a year of propaganda and fear are willing to consider discrimination for the "greater good" of zero Covid. In other words, for ideology and utopia.

Drag the pregnant and those with learning difficulties off the streets, strap them down and jab them. Sad to upset them; but it is for the greater good. Hitler had lots of ideas along these lines. We are foolish to just casually give away freedoms; however small they may seem.

This is why it is right that a growing group of Tories are saying we must be fully opened up by May not June. With deaths, hospital admissions and infections free falling and the most vulnerable vaccinated there is no excuse for one more day of this.

Covid is effectively over now as a "medical drama" and must not be allowed to become a political one.

Take those freedoms seriously everyone. Read and understand history. Go easy on those who have been brainwashed and frightened for a year; but hard as hell on totalitarianist doctrine wherever there is a hint or suggestion it is unwittingly being given breath.

We have destroyed our economy, killed tens of thousands and ruined the prospects of a generation on a media-inflated false premis. A good story. Let's resist the further damage of permanently losing the way of life we take for granted. Love humanity and life; not fear and propaganda.

Can we swing these morons on the lampposts Wyot ?

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:


Can we swing these morons on the lampposts Wyot ?

I think you may have slightly misjudged my approach to discourse GM....

But of course so long as the trail to "Wyot" remains cold...

How would you know Mr. King, have you had the vaccine?

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:


Can we swing these morons on the lampposts Wyot ?

I think you may have slightly misjudged my approach to discourse GM....

But of course so long as the trail to "Wyot" remains cold...

We see about that !




Charlie Rich is very underrated just Mr Wyot.

As tempting as it might be to enjoy nightclubs full of exclusively older people for a while, I will NOT be carrying a vaccination card.

If my vaccination is so effective, why do I need to know who else has had it? If my mask protects me, why do I need to care who else is wearing one?

It is an excuse for bullying, dividing, preaching and virtue signalling, and they can bugger right off!

Honey wrote:
As tempting as it might be to enjoy nightclubs full of exclusively older people for a while, I will NOT be carrying a vaccination card.

If my vaccination is so effective, why do I need to know who else has had it? If my mask protects me, why do I need to care who else is wearing one?

It is an excuse for bullying, dividing, preaching and virtue signalling, and they can bugger right off!

All part of the plan and Great Reset.

I had a leaflet today about my vaccine it says after the jab to practise social distancing, wear a mask and wash hands regularly. We have been doing that for a year now !