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TOPIC: Yet another "octopus" liar
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Yet another "octopus" liar 4 Years, 5 Months ago  
Crooked woman after cash (#MeToo) fails in her belated exaggerations. At last the legal system is becoming aware that 95% of sex claims are false; either invented or inflated, often for cash or revenge.
Now we need the Law to insist on prosecution of false accusers - and their enablers (bent lawyers, crooked PR people, dodgy police and greedy media). Attempting to Pervert the Course of Justice is not a victimless crime.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9350959...ndecent-assault.html
 
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#206721
Jo

Re:Yet another "octopus" liar 4 Years, 5 Months ago  
Multi-millionaire hedge fund manager ... who is worth an estimated £823million ...
Until hordes of alleged victims of crime start coming forward about dustbin collecters and street sweepers, it's hard not to be sceptical about these claims against the wealthy.

... The court was told how the woman reported Odey to the police after poring over reports in the media about the Harvey Weinstein rape allegations and the #MeToo movement. ...
Reminds me of the Australian Rolf Harris accuser who, in one of her paid interviews to the media a year before the trial, said that she had become "fixated on child sexual assault cases" (magazine interview). Curiously, the story she told in a paid interview to Australian TV's A Current Affair in May 2013, published immediately on YouTube, had numerous points in common (at least 20) with the story about Jimmy Savile told by his great niece, Caroline Robinson, in an interview given to ITV's This Morning in October 2012, that also appeared immediately on YouTube. (The original RH defence team were made aware of the two strikingly similar stories but, according to the appeal judgment, chose not to use it as they "were keen not to implant in the jury’s minds similarities between Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile". So the appeal court didn't allow the new defence team a "second bite of the cherry". See paras 83/84 of the appeal judgment.) More curiously still, that Rolf Harris accuser's story mirrored in crucial ways the story told by Rolf Harris's main accuser: they both claimed that he groped them on his lap and, when they were under age (the main accuser at the youngest age at which she was claiming to have been abused, i.e. 13), fondled them intimately outside washing facilities after lying in wait for them. Given the parallels between those RH/JS stories, I have always wondered how the parallels, so neat and damning and suggestive of a modus operandi, between the two RH accusers' stories (accounting for 10 of the 12 charges against RH) came about.
 
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#206743
hedda

Re:Yet another "octopus" liar 4 Years, 5 Months ago  
I'm still with Germaine Greer (love her) on this: why are victims given anonymity?

It implies there is shame connected to what happened to them

They should be able to shout it from the rooftops. But society in a 100 ways still carries an undercurrent that rape is shameful for the victim, hence they should remain anonymous. Why?

## However ..the way society has built up this meme over the past few decades (they weren't anonymous 50 years ago) I totally understand that a genuine victim today would like to stay anonymous.

But it's a False Allegations Charter to accuse and escape censure.

I put it in the same basket of those dreadful people /campaigners/feminazis (as opposed to genuine feminists) that continually promote the notion in so many overt & covert ways, that once raped your life is over. No chance of recovery.

Terrible message for all future victims.
 
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#206750
Green Man

Re:Yet another "octopus" liar 4 Years, 5 Months ago  
I have been glued on Andrew Cuomo, he once said believe all women and wanted Brett Kavanagh to be found guilty. Now it's his turn -Karma.

Remember that Cuomo's father was pretty much a gangster and his twat of a brother works for CNN.
 
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#206753
md

Re:Yet another "octopus" liar 4 Years, 5 Months ago  
I don’t think the placing of victims advocacy groups at the heart of the CJS helps. It makes it less likely for decision-makers to listen to the clarity and wisdom of women such as Germaine Greer and Graça Machel who have been through traumatic life experiences, managing to overcome and integrate them.

There was a false rape case back in 2011 involving two teenagers. The anonymity that was given to both of them didn’t seem to make any difference in the handling of the case. I think Keir Starmer might have got somewhere had he listened to the mother of one of the witnesses who said "There must have been a better way of dealing with it”. Instead, her voice seems to have been ignored, suppressed and overtaken by a louder, forceful one.


www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jan/28/...omplaint-prosecution
www.cps.gov.uk/victims-witnesses
www.police-foundation.org.uk/2016/03/vic...minal-justice-system
justiceinnovation.org/portfolio/successf...esigned-model-victim
 
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