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India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
Am I wrong to think, removing the media exaggeration, that this reflects the global trend of Covid19? If successfully suppressed in Phase One, there are more vulnerables to be killed in Phases Two or Three (or, yet to come, Four and Five) unless vaccines get used?

I've always found the mass funerals on the Ganges etc rather disturbing, so the mass cremations don't surprise me. Different countries do it in different ways.

Are there more deaths in ratio to cases than anywhere else? I suspect not - it's usually around 3-4% (except the appalling start in the Death Five when it was 25%).

Have some countries dealt with it better (China) or just controlled media hyperbole better?

I've always feared, when the seasons changed, that many countries will find massive cases and deaths unless they have sensibly vaccinated all over 60 plus the other vulnerables (care workers, doctors, nurses, obese, smokers). Let's hope I'm wrong as we watch Down Under.
 
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Honey

Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Am I wrong to think, removing the media exaggeration, that this reflects the global trend of Covid19? If successfully suppressed in Phase One, there are more vulnerables to be killed in Phases Two or Three (or, yet to come, Four and Five) unless vaccines get used?

I've always found the mass funerals on the Ganges etc rather disturbing, so the mass cremations don't surprise me. Different countries do it in different ways.

Are there more deaths in ratio to cases than anywhere else? I suspect not - it's usually around 3-4% (except the appalling start in the Death Five when it was 25%).

Have some countries dealt with it better (China) or just controlled media hyperbole better?

I've always feared, when the seasons changed, that many countries will find massive cases and deaths unless they have sensibly vaccinated all over 60 plus the other vulnerables (care workers, doctors, nurses, obese, smokers). Let's hope I'm wrong as we watch Down Under.


I may very well be wrong, because I have got some sort of mental block when it comes to percentages, but I think that the number of deaths dont show that it is a more infectious and deadly version, as reported, and this is without taking into account that some people are dying because of the lack of medical care, where they could have survived.

I hope someone more competent will work it out for us.
 
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Wyot

Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
The variant is only "of interest" and not been confirmed as either more deadly or infectious. The so called "double mutation" was found in India last year and with season change is now an issue. It has also been found in a range of other countries, including the UK.

www.livemint.com/news/india/indias-doubl...-11618789603145.html

So the idea that a unique more deadly virus is hitting India is just media hype and suggestion so far as I can make out. But I am starting to wonder if a combination of season, poverty, overcrowding & health care problems may see a terribly high toll in India.
 
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Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
Notice, WYOT, the silly "deaths as percentage of population" list has just seen the No1 - UK - beaten by Italy. India remains currently below USA and even Brazil.
 
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Honey

Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Notice, WYOT, the silly "deaths as percentage of population" list has just seen the No1 - UK - beaten by Italy. India remains currently below USA and even Brazil.

Yes, but other countries don't include having your head chopped off after an uneventful covid diagnosis.
 
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Wyot

Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Notice, WYOT, the silly "deaths as percentage of population" list has just seen the No1 - UK - beaten by Italy. India remains currently below USA and even Brazil.

Yes but I think behind the "killer new variant" crap headlines there seems to be a real issue in particular with oxygen supply, which may see numbers of deaths (most of which would have been avoidable..) go awfully high there.

Let's hope the international support can prevent this. But this is a separate topic really to Covid; it is about relative world poverty. I also think the real story in the UK was simply panic about ICU capacity in the most underfunded health system in Europe. The media just keep confecting the most dramatic narratives and barely pay attention to the real story.
 
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#208222
Re:India Second Wave 4 Years, 3 Months ago  
Watching the latest filming in hospitals it looks exactly the same as the pics of hospitals in the UK, USA, Brazil everywhere during the earlier waves - apart, of course, for the different cultures - fewer waiting rooms, more beds, different types of oxygen etc...
 
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