Well I've had time now to read the transcript of his Podcast interview.
I really don't understand the hatred for him, totally whipped up by media who loathe the fact that Meghan became unavailable.
If media are denied fresh daily photos and stories about pretty girls, especially the Royals, their world will collapse.
So I do understand the reason for their campaigns. Which, as always, are very effective.
But I also absolutely understand Harry's points and attitude.
Nobody in their right mind would want to be in the Royal Family. A thankless job; especially when in the second rank.
Our utterly brilliant Queen had it forced upon her. Like her Father who wanted the gig even less.
But duty told him to obey. And he did.
So has Elizabeth - enormous, massive credit to her. And to Philip.
And to Charles. And William.
And their families - except, of course, Diana, who realised too late what an appalling, thankless, exhausting, frightening job it was; tried to leave and was killed (in my opinion by the media; but that's another story; not one you'll ever read in traditional media and probably even censored in most social media too; thank God for KingOfHits - 25 years old this year).
Harry is quite right in wishing to change the way he, his family and his friends live their lives.
He's quite right trying to make the most of his situation without losing touch with his beloved family, who just have taken the different path.
This is NOT what the media want you to believe, of course.
Disfunctional? No it's not. It's fine.
In fact, under the circumstances, doing brilliantly.
So my message to Harry is -
Keep doing what you're doing.
Make sure the bonds with your family remain as strong as I'm sure they are.
Good luck to you. And to Meghan. And to your children.
You will win, as your mother did. But watch out for the media.
We can be treacherous swine. All we want is a good story.

I agree with everything you are saying but differ on how he is going about this, the detail of what he is saying and the necessity for doing do.

I haven't admittedly read the podcast but unless the media are making quotes up, he is once again sticking the knife into the Royal Family. Yes no one sane would wish to be in it; but just leave with some dignity; show some character in not pissing all over your family in public -because it achieves nothing but damage to then.

He doesn't have to talk to the media. If he really wishes to protect his son I would suggest this would be the best course of action.

It's media again WYOT. Like the Meghan/Harry interview. Someone MAY have well made that remark (why not? I wonder what colour his eyes will be?). She, being sensitive in that area, MAY have misread it. Both of them make little of it until Oprah (GREAT story) seems horrified! (What colour are his eyes??? Unbelievable!!! A key Royal is prejudiced against blue eyed people????). Then media coverage inflates further.

Harry did not stick any knives in anywhere. He thinks, rightly or wrongly, that the chain of upbringing has tended to mean they are very cautious, perhaps even distant, and have been taught to protect the institution by NOT crossing boundaries. (Do NOT be photographed eating a bacon sandwich type stuff). Which, he found (especially as his Mum was clearly very touchy feely kiss hug) cold.

I'm sure he's right. I wanted The Queen to say, when Philip died, "I'm heart broken. He was the love of my life. I adored him from start to finish". I'm sure that's what she felt and I'm sure, as she is quite marvellous, she has trained herself NOT to expose herself. Harry was brought up that way (except, I suspect, by Diana). He conformed generally whist disliking having to do it. Then Meghan arrived, found it unbearable. Both of them were quite right to want out.

And neither has said anything against the Royal Family. Except when coloured up and inflated (like Covid and Brexit etc) by the media.

To make it "a better story".

I agree that the media will inflate and leap on every comment the couple make, just not necessarily on the level of naievity you assume in their dealings with the media; that they didn't know how the eye colour commment would be reported? They aren't kids and both are now very experienced with media. Then why are they talking to the media which they must know is a double-headed serpent? Protect Archie, stop doing so. Look at Uncle Edward; he has done a great job for his family.

Mr King, nobody gives a stuff if Harry leaves the royal family or not. Go, get on with it, be happy. He should have the same choices as everyone else.

But this is not what it is about. He, and his wife, have smeared the royal family with proven lies and nonsense. Ridiculous claptrap.


We do not know for sure that Princess Anne did not say something racist to Harry. She says she expressed concerns about Meghan's suitability and the difficulties with children the cultural (Hollywood) differences might bring.
She has also, as trustee, raised the age when he gets his inheritance.


We can either believe Princess Anne who has travelled the world over, met all sorts of ordinary people, dignitaries, lots and lots of staff and as far as we know has not fell out with anyone ever or said anything peculiar.

Or, the mid thirties father of two who demands to be supported by his own father, cares nothing about attacking his family while his grandfather lies dying, and is, by his own admission, mentally unstable.

And his wife, who has told lies about the Archbishop (twice) the obstetrician, the string of nonsense about inheritance, and has fallen out with everybody in TWO previous husband's families, her current husband's family, her entire family on her mother's side, her entire family on her father's side, and more recently her mother too.
She has accused her father of sexually abusing her, but will not bring a case against him so he can defend himself.

So, given the choices of who to believe about the few remaining allegations which are not yet shown to be lies, who seems the most credible?

But you see I don't go along with any of the exaggerated claims; just as with everything else I think calmer, milder assumptions are simply disagreements about minor matters inflated by media and believed (they ARE better stories) by all of us who have nether the time nor the inclination to waste. I didn't want to read his interview or hear the podcast or even watch the TV. But my conclusions are that media reactions (Oprah's "Oh my God" instead of my "so what?") provoke extreme opinions whereas the reality is - these are two people trying to get on with life.

Yes media is a two headed serpent. I love it (it's made me millions, given me dozens of hits). Why shouldn't Harry & Meghan use it as much as they can? Yes they will get the negative side too; they must learn to live with it. I've had both; would never have had one without the other; on balance media has been great for me, fame has been wonderful.

Yes but they need to stop moaning when the double-headed serpent turns on them. It is the hypocrisy & lack of character that is irritating people. I don't recall you moaning and whining when said serpent reared at you...

Fair enough but I think that the extremes , when clearly unfair, need to be fought; it appears that Meghan's case against the Mail was entirely correct and they were in the wrong. Yes - my particular reason for not suing papers is that I know the animal, "it's their nature" as the scorpion said to the frog. I would never let a scorpion ride on my back but I might enlist its help if a frog predator tried to attack me.

But my main thought is - is that any reason to hate anyone? Like Covid, people are going to extremes. Harry & Meghan are the Devil Incarnate to most whereas in reality they are just a young couple trying to make it in a difficult situation with one appalling, powerful enemy; the media.

We all know that if, like Diana, Meghan had agreed to pose, possibly almost topless, whenever the Sun required, she'd be the Peoples' Princess now.

No it's no reason to hate anyone and I don't understand the vitriol (even though I called him a "knob" in another thread!). I suppose I just feel bewilderment - you want a "normal life" for you & your family then just leave the media well alone. Simple.

But then I say this as someone who has never experienced celebrity & media attention; I imagine it gets addictive and a kind of fear sets in if you don't get enough exposure...

12,843 views for this thread in 24 hours. It seems Great Britain is fascinated by the saga - totally media created, unimportant and trivial, a bit like Covid, Brexit, Trump and all the other minor hiccups of daily human society.

It's all becoming quite tedious.

I believe there were elements of racism with Meghan..the press were watching her every move just a'waiting for her to slip up & in the background you can just feel the fact that she is black is a factor (especially after see how dark Dora is).

Pretty sure someone in The Family may have asked "what colour?" will Archie be but only as in "will he have red hair?"

I don't believe for a second any of the Royals harbour racist views.

At the same time as being treated badly, Meghan doesn't exude much charisma. She comes across as a tad one dimensional & about as dim as Harry.

Harry's obsessional moaning is now pretty boring. Sure he lost his Mum, the most famous woman who has ever lived ?) but so have millions of others lost parents.

I just know they have some ludicrous US publicist advising them and it shows..telling (the ghastly) Oprah that he was forced to live on his mother's inheritance as Dad cut off his allowance was the height of stupidity.

I have nothing against the pair but find them insanely boring.

hedda wrote:
It's all becoming quite tedious.

I have nothing against the pair but find them insanely boring.

I agree and that's I assume why we have this grubby drip-tell situation - what else do they have to bring to the table? They are famous because of random selection - not merit. Perfectly nice I am sure, wish them well etc; but what is there to be interested in?

God this is tiresome....We now have Harry the "drink & drugs years". Shock revelation that a single young man aged 28 to 32 could drink a week of alcohol units on Friday OR Saturday night.

He has decided this was because of trauma; non self-obsessed idiots would call it "partying".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57187138