To pick up on your point on another thread Wyot - Lockdowns clearly DO save lives if you do it early enough for infectious diseases that may provoke death in the elderly and vulnerable. But is it ever worth it? That depends on the level of danger in the virus.

We agree that Covid was nowhere near as lethal as painted - mainly due to media exaggeration. In Wuhan, before they knew the status of this brand new variant, they were right to lockdown until it was found (quite quickly) that Covid was not as lethal as feared. Other countries should, in my opinion, have locked down the vulnerable very quickly - and made sure they were protected and provided with food, drink, care, medical attention etc. But NOT the majority. Not the panic cause by media inflation.

Yes quite - my problem with the restrictions used has been the long term mass lockdown and isolation of the vast majority who are not vulnerable to this virus. This was a pointless and silly over reaction. Just protect the vulnerable as best we can. The threat to the nation as a whole was grossly exagerrated and never justified the means.

A co-ordinated and brief lockdown right at the beginning would have prevented the never ending nonsense.

Oh, and saved lives too.

Am I thick?

Everyone is talking about whether Boris "followed the science"? Whichever science is followed it will only tell us about how a virus spreads, how lethal it is and the best ideas about what might control it.

It is not a particularly important question; just detail. In fact, it is not even a question it is just information; sat ready to be used like those young ladies perched in windows in Amsterdam.

It is then a political decision -weighing this up - whether the damage caused by sustained lockdowns is a cost that serves the national interest and is justified.

Why can no one ask these real questions and stop bleating on about "following the fucking science"; as if science is an end in itself rather than a process.

Am I just much smarter than most people or much stupider?! Someone make me understand before I throw my TV out the window

Wyot wrote:
Am I thick?

Am I just much smarter than most people or much stupider?


Your psychiatrist can only answer those questions.

But - as you dislike Boris and Starmer - who should take charge?

Wyot wrote:
Am I thick?

Everyone is talking about whether Boris "followed the science"? Whichever science is followed it will only tell us about how a virus spreads, how lethal it is and the best ideas about what might control it.

It is not a particularly important question; just detail. In fact, it is not even a question it is just information; sat ready to be used like those young ladies perched in windows in Amsterdam.

It is then a political decision -weighing this up - whether the damage caused by sustained lockdowns is a cost that serves the national interest and is justified.

Why can no one ask these real questions and stop bleating on about "following the fucking science"; as if science is an end in itself rather than a process.

Am I just much smarter than most people or much stupider?! Someone make me understand before I throw my TV out the window

Just go ahead and chuck it, Wyot. It will never make any sense.

Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:


Just go ahead and chuck it, Wyot. It will never make any sense.

I chucked it but forgot to let go.

I've woken in a hospital room with no windows. There is music in the room: Everyone Has Gone to the Moon on an endless loop. Which soothes.

But every so often Matt Hancock enters and blows a kiss at me. He is holding a red balloon and is dressed as a clown. My body has gone. I am just a head in a box filled with liquid covid. I share the box with the head of Patrick Vallance who won't stop glaring at me...

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:


Just go ahead and chuck it, Wyot. It will never make any sense.

I chucked it but forgot to let go.

I've woken in a hospital room with no windows. There is music in the room: Everyone Has Gone to the Moon on an endless loop. Which soothes.

But every so often Matt Hancock enters and blows a kiss at me. He is holding a red balloon and is dressed as a clown. My body has gone. I am just a head in a box filled with liquid covid. I share the box with the head of Patrick Vallance who won't stop glaring at me...

If you see Barneys' brain throw it in the skip.

Gael Vella wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Am I thick?

Am I just much smarter than most people or much stupider?


Your psychiatrist can only answer those questions.

But - as you dislike Boris and Starmer - who should take charge?




Jesse Ventura.

Honey wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Am I thick?

Everyone is talking about whether Boris "followed the science"? Whichever science is followed it will only tell us about how a virus spreads, how lethal it is and the best ideas about what might control it.

It is not a particularly important question; just detail. In fact, it is not even a question it is just information; sat ready to be used like those young ladies perched in windows in Amsterdam.

It is then a political decision -weighing this up - whether the damage caused by sustained lockdowns is a cost that serves the national interest and is justified.

Why can no one ask these real questions and stop bleating on about "following the fucking science"; as if science is an end in itself rather than a process.

Am I just much smarter than most people or much stupider?! Someone make me understand before I throw my TV out the window

Just go ahead and chuck it, Wyot. It will never make any sense.

Before you chuck it please take out the gold conductors.

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:


If you see Barneys' brain throw it in the skip.

My vision is not that sharp these days...