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Yup. Delighted Queen that they have named daughter after her. Using her special nickname (given, I think, by younger sister Margaret). Charming. Sweet. Not at all what the media want.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
Well I think it's all down to my experience regarding the media - that's almost 60 years of observing and being an active member. I see all the signs of media simplification and invention in this whole "rift" thing. A young man decides he isn't keen on following a life and career route, encouraged by his loving wife. The Royal Family, a finely honed organisation, completely accepts this. Interviews in the media can be interpreted in different ways (and edited to get the best ratings) but I saw no unpleasant or unreasonable criticism; just correct observations on the problems of a dated structure having to cope with the new world morality, communications industry, media and public longing for "a great story".
I find it odd that anybody not directly connected to the family would have any opinion on their private, personal relationships. Don't ALL families have differences, love, bonding, fallings out? We work through them, appreciate them, disagree, agree. I think families are great. We all have different problems or approaches or fates. Some loved ones die. Others turn strange. Some do drugs, get drunk, smoke cigarettes. Others have sexual predilections. That's life.
Harry & Meghan? A perfectly nice couple trying to get on in this world - sadly having alienated the media somewhere along the line.
Hedda (the Tory) wrote: I guarantee they ran this name past HM.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
I agree about Lady C. I absolutely adore her for some reason.
I cant really see the point of her petition asking Harry to request that his titles are put into abeyance though.
Hedda (the Tory) wrote: I guarantee they ran this name past HM.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
It's hard to believe they wouldn't have cleared the name with the Queen first.
Lady Colin Campbell has apparently lodged a petition urging Prince Harry to give up his titles. Yet judging from her Wikipedia page she calls herself Lady Colin Campbell on the strength of a 14-month marriage in the 1970s that ended in divorce.
Hedda (the Tory) wrote: I guarantee they ran this name past HM.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
Does she have a winky ? It's something that has been debated in numerous pub conversations ?
Jo wrote: Hedda (the Tory) wrote: I guarantee they ran this name past HM.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
It's hard to believe they wouldn't have cleared the name with the Queen first.
Lady Colin Campbell has apparently lodged a petition urging Prince Harry to give up his titles. Yet judging from her Wikipedia page she calls herself Lady Colin Campbell on the strength of a 14-month marriage in the 1970s that ended in divorce.
Except that nobody can stand Colin Campbell, so having his name is no advantage, and she is a countess in her own right, which I think trumps "lady".
I believe she hung onto the title for spite.
Green Man wrote: Hedda (the Tory) wrote: I guarantee they ran this name past HM.
Harry's is a dill but he's not that stupid. Meghan of course wouldn't have a clue who Lilibet is.
Needless to say they rolled out Lady Colin Campbell as a "royal expert"..LOL ! Boy could I tell you tales about her but I sort of like her even though she really is the most horrendous snob.
Does she have a winky ? It's something that has been debated in numerous pub conversations ?
No, she had a deformity at birth which led to her being assigned male sex, although biologically female, and so she was brought up as a boy. The deformity was corrected long ago.
I never realised I knew so much about her. I could do Mastermind!
This is her latest youtube thingy.
She is mistaken about the name though. It is well known in Sweden and other parts of Scandinavia and there is even a lovely book with the title "Lilibet Cirkusbarn" about a little girl born in a circus, so Lili Mountbatten-Windsor will not be the only one.
Also, I believe The Queen is/was called Lilibet by some of Prince Phillip's relatives.
The Queen was not asked by the Duke and Duchess of Sussex about naming their daughter Lilibet, a Palace source has told the BBC.
The source disputed reports in the wake of the announcement of the name that Prince Harry and Meghan had spoken to the Queen before the birth.
But a Sussexes' spokesperson insisted they would not have used the name had the Queen not been supportive.
They said the monarch was the first family member the duke had called.
The spokesperson said: "The duke spoke with his family in advance of the announcement - in fact his grandmother was the first family member he called.
"During that conversation, he shared their hope of naming their daughter Lilibet in her honour. Had she not been supportive, they would not have used the name."
If they knew months ago that they were expecting a girl you wouldn't think they'd have waited until they told the Queen that the baby had been born before asking permission to call her Lilibet. Maybe this "hope of naming their daughter Lilibet" was just telling the Queen that's what they were going to call her, rather like telling her they were stepping down from royal duties.
For God's sake Jo don 't fall for the stupid, nasty, wicked media hype for "a good story" like they did for Rolf and Jimmy and me and Cliff, Gambo and the rest. They will ALWAYS exaggerate and fuck the consequences. Just like Covid, repercussions can be appalling. Who cares when a couple asked permission to call their daughter Lilli? The Queen is clearly delighted. So she should be. This is a happy family. Do not believe the hype.
Jo wrote: This is the BBC and I think they generally report things, including the Rolf case, pretty straightforwardly.
I used to think this Jo before I looked into Covid and then watched with horror over the past year how the BBC covered it. The scales fell from my eyes. Doesn't mean I belive Rolf, Saville etc are innocent (or anyone else mentioned on here - how could I possibly know...) but I no longer have any trust in the MSM attempting "balanced" reporting on anything; this is not even their aim.
The domain name "Lilibetdiana.com was registered at five past eight in the morning, and the child was born at twenty to twelve.
The name may or may not have been mentioned before the birth, but if Harry is saying that he discussed it with The Queen in his conversation after the birth, it was already a done deal.
"PrincessLilibet" has also been registered a few days before this. A bit bloody morbid, I thought.
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