Astonishingly revealing statement embedded in this BBC news article by a Prof Walker that no one seems to have yet picked up on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58257863

"We don't yet know how much transmission can happen from those who are vaccinated...They definitely can transmit as much (as the non-vaccinated)."

This is "why everyone should get vaccinated".

I'm sorry?! What are vaccine passports about? Why has the world drawn up endless rules about movement and freedom based on vaccination status if it has no effect on transmission?

No conspiracy theory - but very revealing about how the authorities are willing to deliberately mislead us all on Covid in an effort to keep their death figures down.

Why can't they just give us the facts and let people decide what risks they wish to take? And how dare they discriminate against the non-vaccinated (silly not to get vacinated but up to them...) in an effort to keep their death figures low.

Might as well say that someone who doesn't eat fruit can't go to the cinema.

Yes, this has been known for ages but everyone ignored it in their keenness to get to the beach and football matches.

No point in any passport at all, and it can only make it worse, giving the impression you are safe when you are not.
(or as safe as you ever were, depending on circumstances)

And The Mail now reporting what the good Professor was alluding to: double vaccinated as likely to spread Covid as unvaccinated.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9905631...id-unvaccinated.html

Wyot wrote:
And The Mail now reporting what the good Professor was alluding to: double vaccinated as likely to spread Covid as unvaccinated.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9905631...id-unvaccinated.html

Any minute now and they will discover the eighteen month old information that you cant "choose" to protect yourself with a (ordinary) mask while everyone else breathes unrestricted.(and not much WITH everyone masked)

I think people just go along with what they would like to be safe, and ignore facts.

For all my ranting about the pretendey rules, I do make the effort to plough through all the actual facts. (few as they are)

It was great shopping in the high street today. There were hardly anyone wearing a mask or lanyards on around necks or stuffed inside pockets, no social distancing and strangers were actually talking properly. All the high street travel agents were packed.

In the coffee shop I popped in today, there were people relaxing and talking about current affair's and the Covid jabs.

I did over hear a conversation with GP and a group of students. Who advised them only get the vaccine if you are not in bad health and don't have or had the following poor immune systems, anaemic, have or had bells palsy or stroke, have or had Guillain-Barre syndrome (in which a relative suffered from) suffer from deep vein thrombosis, HIV or for any religious reasons.

The church that my daughters go to believe in faith science, so did many Jews and Muslims. I had bells palsy which lasted for several years it was caused by stress.

My partners father is now wheelchair bound caused by 2 strokes he now refuses any further medication, he wants to choose his own fate.

There's needs to be more awareness and exception cards should be issued just to shut people up in my opinion.


I have no idea why Australia and New Zealand have locked up the population again and Spain now agree that further lockdown is unlawful.

I like to know if the migrants from coming to the Kent coast are virus and disease free.

I have no idea why anyone wants to visit or live in Kent it's so dreary and the beaches are awful and trashy. The quaint villages are full of residents who are probably inbred and are very unwelcoming to tourists. The migrants are mad wanting to go to Kent, they should go and stay in the French Riviera.

Green Man wrote:
I like to know if the migrants from coming to the Kent coast are virus and disease free.

I have no idea why anyone wants to visit or live in Kent it's so dreary and the beaches are awful and trashy. The quaint villages are full of residents who are probably inbred and are very unwelcoming to tourists. The migrants are mad wanting to go to Kent, they should go and stay in the French Riviera.

If the Riviera paid for them and gave them accommodation we would all be migrants on the Riviera!

Honey wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:


Any minute now and they will discover the eighteen month old information that you cant "choose" to protect yourself with a (ordinary) mask while everyone else breathes unrestricted.(and not much WITH everyone masked)

I think people just go along with what they would like to be safe, and ignore facts.



I think it has all been about psychological manipulation. In fact this is explicit in early SAGE papers to Ministers. SAGE is made up of as many psychologists as "scientists".

When it started masks didn't do anything (WHO). Then they did. Then we were told: they won't protect you much but will others so do your civic duty. They seemed to want millions to believe that an airborne virus can move through cloth masks, but only in one direction - outwards.

However, I think you are right Honey most people just want to hear something that makes them feel safer; the illusion of control of their fate.

They aren't stupid; rather thinking is uncomfortable and unsettling, so they'd rather not go there.

Green Man wrote:


I have no idea why Australia and New Zealand have locked up the population again and Spain now agree that further lockdown is unlawful.

Yes it is astonishing and baffling why they are now doing this. It has been shown that none of the dire death predictions came true. Sort your vaccination programmes out yes - but grow up.

Spain a beacon of light.