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Apart from the victim blaming aspect of telling us to "challenge" plain clothes police officers and "hail down a bus" if we are uncomfortable, do these donkeys actually know what a bus is? You cant flag down a flipping bus. They must be so far removed from normal life that they have confused them with taxis.
The continuing stupidity (or deliberate obfuscation depending on your view).. of Police on this is amazing...
Why are they going on about flagging buses!?
The risk is not of an exact repeat of this Wayne character...it is of systemic mysoginy and institutional cover ups: corruption, in short.
This cop was just a one in a million psycho. But they feel they have to be seen to be doing something while never addressing the real question here: why was this fucker never challenged or charged with anything by his colleagues?
Start talking about the REAL subject please Police and stop treating the women of this country like half-wits.
Wyot wrote: And why should women assume they can trust bus drivers or any passengers on board? They may be off duty Police Officers, after all...
What are bus drivers going to do ? Bus drivers have to stop at bus stops. Not just anywhere.
It's a bit like bus replacement services for the train lines, buses have to stop at train stations not bus stops due to drivers insurance. They can't stop at the bus stops like normal bus can.
I have seen some very eccentric bus passenger's and bus drivers over the years.
Do we stop sending kids to schools because of predatory teachers?
wpc hedda wrote: You would have to be very lucky that a bus came along just as you were being kidnapped by a copper.
Chances are once you were bundled handcuffed into his car and spirited away..3 No 31s would all come along one after the other
The footage of Sarah Everard and Couzens at the side of the road with him seem to be showing her his warrant card was apparently taken from a passing bus. I think this "helpful suggestion" as well as the others from the Met could be interpreted to mean that they think she could have flagged down that bus.
My mum was sexually assaulted as a young woman by a passer-by when walking down a city street in winter when it got dark early. She went to a bus waiting at a bus stop and banged on the door to get help. The driver didn't open the door, just pointed down the street.
So what actually happens when a bus is flagged down by a woman because she feels uncomfortable about interacting with a single male police officer?
I suspect it will soon be a case of 'Yeah, the cop stopped me for nicking a chicken from Tesco's so I flagged down the 86, told him he was a pervert and off I went."
I doubt that the Islington Elite have any idea about buses and how batty this scheme would work out to be in practice.
Jo wrote: wpc hedda wrote: You would have to be very lucky that a bus came along just as you were being kidnapped by a copper.
Chances are once you were bundled handcuffed into his car and spirited away..3 No 31s would all come along one after the other
The footage of Sarah Everard and Couzens at the side of the road with him seem to be showing her his warrant card was apparently taken from a passing bus. I think this "helpful suggestion" as well as the others from the Met could be interpreted to mean that they think she could have flagged down that bus.
My mum was sexually assaulted as a young woman by a passer-by when walking down a city street in winter when it got dark early. She went to a bus waiting at a bus stop and banged on the door to get help. The driver didn't open the door, just pointed down the street.
Bus driving is not a glamorous job but it's an important job. Drivers have enough reasonability making sure passengers are safe and dealing with impatient road users also. Giving them the extra reasonability to look for lone women will had more stress to their job.
I wonder how many nutty people off the general public will flag down buses for the sake of it ? If you are in trouble members of the public rarely intervene these days for their own safety or risk off getting sued. A lot of people rather stay silent and record incidents on their phones either to give to the police of for their social media.
My dad intervened a fight once between a man and a woman, my dad ended up getting head-butted which caused a broken nose and suffered a broken tooth. Then woman started to join and warned my dad to "stay out off other peoples business".
Green Man wrote: Jo wrote: wpc hedda wrote: You would have to be very lucky that a bus came along just as you were being kidnapped by a copper.
Chances are once you were bundled handcuffed into his car and spirited away..3 No 31s would all come along one after the other
The footage of Sarah Everard and Couzens at the side of the road with him seem to be showing her his warrant card was apparently taken from a passing bus. I think this "helpful suggestion" as well as the others from the Met could be interpreted to mean that they think she could have flagged down that bus.
My mum was sexually assaulted as a young woman by a passer-by when walking down a city street in winter when it got dark early. She went to a bus waiting at a bus stop and banged on the door to get help. The driver didn't open the door, just pointed down the street.
Bus driving is not a glamorous job but it's an important job. Drivers have enough reasonability making sure passengers are safe and dealing with impatient road users also. Giving them the extra reasonability to look for lone women will had more stress to their job.
I wonder how many nutty people off the general public will flag down buses for the sake of it ? If you are in trouble members of the public rarely intervene these days for their own safety or risk off getting sued. A lot of people rather stay silent and record incidents on their phones either to give to the police of for their social media.
My dad intervened a fight once between a man and a woman, my dad ended up getting head-butted which caused a broken nose and suffered a broken tooth. Then woman started to join and warned my dad to "stay out off other peoples business".
Yes. A lot of people wont intervene, because THE POLICE told us NOT TO!
Sheba wrote: So what actually happens when a bus is flagged down by a woman because she feels uncomfortable about interacting with a single male police officer?
I suspect it will soon be a case of 'Yeah, the cop stopped me for nicking a chicken from Tesco's so I flagged down the 86, told him he was a pervert and off I went."
I doubt that the Islington Elite have any idea about buses and how batty this scheme would work out to be in practice.
Where I used to live if it snows or there's ice of the roads all buses are cancelled until further notice. Not forgetting the buses stopped running at 18:30 in the evening. If you missed you were screwed and taxi's drivers would take advantage of the situation with fares. Again there are dodgy taxi drivers around.
Where I live now there are only 2 buses one in the morning and one in the evening - any road works that are going on buses won't even drive through the area. So you either have to walk, cycle or drive. I wouldn't bother with walking because there's no pavement. There nearest petrol station is 6 miles away. So you are pretty much screwed if you're not mobile.
I suspect it will soon be a case of 'Yeah, the cop stopped me for nicking a chicken from Tesco's so I flagged down the 86, told him he was a pervert and off I went."
I doubt that the Islington Elite have any idea about buses and how batty this scheme would work out to be in practice.
When has any MP, PM, etc ever lived in the real world. Even teachers lack life experience in theory they never left school. Teachers seem to be thick as planks of wood - but I am not insulting wood because wood is useful material.