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#21804
Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
Why are they even discussing it? It's mad - quite impossible and rightly so.
The EEC has no boundaries technically. We can and should all enter all EEC territories freely. Driving from France to Italy, for example, has a tiny sign - that's it.

Why are we wasting money and legal time on this absurd suggestion?
 
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#21807
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
Whilst watching this story on TV, and with you mentioning about Europe supposedly having no boundaries and wasting money.

The words Dollar and Euro spring to mind.

How odd it is that we are "unified" except in currency.
That lost number in the combination lock has yet to be found.
 
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#21808
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
It drives me mad having to change from the ubiquitous and useful Euro to the silly old pound every time I come home.

Our trouble is - we want to have our cake and eat it (actually a damn silly metaphor; what use is cake if not eaten?).

If we agree to be a part of Europe we have to take the bad with the good; shore up areas of weak Polish economy in order to get the blessings of cheap Polish labour and so on.

We squeal when we bump into disadvantages!

Like the Human Rights Act - clearly a good thing.

I'd love the tabloid opinion makers to fall foul of some of the non Human Rights situations. My God they would change their opinions fast.
 
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#21810
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
One can hazard a wild guess that if the banks stopped profiting in the UK on Euro exchange fees and rate interests, we could be in dire trouble.

But then "We", are supposed to be unified.
 
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#21811
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
"...we want to have our cake and eat it (actually a damn silly metaphor; what use is cake if not eaten?)"

How can you eat your cake if you don't have it?


The deporting thing; when it came in there was a comment that a fellow could have lived here 40 years, worked, brought up a family and never been in trouble. Then, through perhaps foolish circumstances, he could find himself in prison and at the end of the sentence deported.

These blanket "appease the tabloids" laws are nothing but trouble.

I suppose the tabloids today will all be condemning the Human Rights act with no reference tot he facts of the case.
 
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#21827
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
Good points JK. Of course folk are always whinging about the human rights act, but should they ever be in circumstances beyond their control, they'd be the first to take full advantage of them. They make me sick quite frankly. The very same people who have orgasms at the very mention of bringing back the death penaly, but of course should they find themselves guilty of a murder they didn't committ they'd be whistling a happy tune as their executioner led them to the gallows? Nowt stranger than folk, who are all for their own rights, but don't like the thought of others having any such privileges. Let's forego human rights, bring back the death penalty, but please no blubbing when you watch a loved one swinging, with their excrement quite literally running down their legs....
 
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#21849
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
As the insanity increases (even Cameron now says "scrap the Human Rights Act") I start to wonder why humanity cannot see the imminent approach of our own demise.

The moment you say "All humans are equal but some are more equal than others" you HAVE to realise George Orwell's Big Brother was a far more important concept than a crap TV show.

But still nobody has explained why this guy should be "deported" to Italy.

Isn't it the same, these days, as saying "deport him to Wales"?
 
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#21857
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Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
Cameron wants the Human Rights Act abolished.

Most people (inc the majority of Tories) want Cameron abolished !
 
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#21859
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
I see the Guardian has a Front Page story saying the guy is a reformed character, totally rehabilitated, glowing reports from probation and prison service - yet politicians still think the tabloids are a better source of truth.

You are judged by your friends.
 
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#21861
Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
If Cameroon and his friends actually made themselves aware of the Human Rights Act they would discover that the National Government retains it's sovereignty.

In short that means HMG can ignore it if they feel inclined.

It does seem odd that a call to ban/ignore the Human Rights Act when it is mildly inconvenient is not condemned.

Who wants to live in a society where the Government decides on an ad hoc basis if they will respect a certain law or not?

The petty sadism evident in these cases against the possibility prisoner reform is unwholesome. What punishments will satisfy their lusts?
 
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#21872
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Re:Sending the Lawrence killer to Italy... 16 Years, 8 Months ago  
I also notice that what the Government DON'T want to talk about is all these early prisoner releases BECAUSE the Government has FAILED to provide rehabiltation cources !
 
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