as a side note and completely unconnected to the following..cocaine is a helluva drug.

My predictions:

1. Will Smith's career is over. Box Office poison. No problem..fabulously rich.

or

2. The Oscars as a "glamorous" event are well and truly over unless they blackball Smith. In a few seconds he reduced the event to a pub brawl over a really lame joke.

3. Actors so often delude themselves they are bigger than the mega $Billion Hollywood movie industry but history says otherwise. Of course these days they can make enough $$$ from one film to last a lifetime.

4. I love Ricky Gervais (his atheism annoys me) but I always thought his wonderful performances hosting the Oscars were pricking the inflated balloon and signalling a coming end.

Hardly a slap Hedda. A clear punch; possibly even a crime. But I forgive Will anything. Read my thread!

I think he slapped him with an open hand. Chris Rock looked slapped rather than punched, if you see what I mean?

I am surprised by the amount of people saying that there is no excuse for violence. Well yes, I suppose so, but I cant see why a physical punch is worse than a verbal one.

Words can hurt someone deeply, and can be just as damaging. Often more so.
Making cruel jibes about a woman who has an extremely distressing medical condition is not "better" than punching someone.

Honey wrote:
I think he slapped him with an open hand. Chris Rock looked slapped rather than punched, if you see what I mean?

I am surprised by the amount of people saying that there is no excuse for violence. Well yes, I suppose so, but I cant see why a physical punch is worse than a verbal one.

Words can hurt someone deeply, and can be just as damaging. Often more so.
Making cruel jibes about a woman who has an extremely distressing medical condition is not "better" than punching someone.

if she had something really serious like cancer but honestly..she actually looked fabulous with no hair and that amazing dress.

Wonder how will all pan out..

Honey wrote:
I think he slapped him with an open hand. Chris Rock looked slapped rather than punched, if you see what I mean?



There was no slapping sound. There was a thumping sound. That was quite odd. Maybe he caught the mic.

But this either/or thinking ('is a smack better than a punch, is a physical action worse than a verbal one?') is of no help, even though it's how this culture works. There are multiple gradations of ethical matters to to consider, not simple 'good' and 'bad' things.

JK's 'I like him so it's fine' approach is also of no help. It merely suggests if he hated the figure he'd be reacting quite differently. 'Nice' people who do bad things, even very rarely and out of character, are no less culpable - otherwise we'd all get a 'attack one person on a bad day and stay out of jail' card.

The issue is: should someone behave in that way - in any way remotely like that - in public, let alone a world-wide live televised event? Were there other, and better, options? Yes, there were.

And during the first of these shows overseen by a black producer, two black men get involved in that, in that way - it's nothing but a negative. Sometimes you need to leave all of the other stuff silent and just focus on the basic point.

Sadly most of these discussions on here descend in a nano second to a Smash Hits mentality. Where's that sobbing Britney fan when you need him?

It was disgraceful behaviour, measures should be taken to ensure it never happens again, and rather than lecturing the world ex post facto on how bad violence is (such a sign of how unfettered LA egos are these days), Smith should take a step back, shut up, and get some help.

And as for the rest of us - it's not a game. Stop trying to take sides.

The photos in the article below show that it was a slap: open hand to start and finish.

Jim Carrey apparently wasn't impressed.

Jada Pinkett Smith breaks silence following Will Smith's Oscars slap outburst at Chris Rock

Few major Hollywood stars have shared their thoughts on it - but actor Jim Carrey has said he was "sickened" by what he saw, that the audience was "spineless" for giving Smith a standing ovation just minutes later, and that he "should have been arrested".

In an interview on US television show CBS This Morning, he said the slap was a selfish moment that cast a pall over the whole awards ceremony, saying: "It really felt like this is a really clear indication that we're not the cool club anymore."

And he added: "I'd have announced this morning that I was suing for Will for 200 million dollars because that video is going to be there forever, it's going to be ubiquitous. That insult is going to last a very long time."

If Hollywood actors wants to beat up each other fucking let them ! They are above the law any way even Alec Baldwin is still walking the streets after murdering a film crew member.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10...s-acting-return.html

Green Man wrote:
If Hollywood actors wants to beat up each other fucking let them ! They are above the law any way even Alec Baldwin is still walking the streets after murdering a film crew member.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10...s-acting-return.html

We don't know that he murdered anybody, poor sod.

Green Man wrote:
usbacklash.org/alec-baldwin-movie-shooti...11ec8ef3b48a7dc9226f

It is extremely unlikely that there was a conspiracy to kill someone, as there would have to be if Baldwin didn't load the gun himself.

Even if he did, and hated the woman, I would still assume he was innocent until he had been convicted in court.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
usbacklash.org/alec-baldwin-movie-shooti...11ec8ef3b48a7dc9226f

It is extremely unlikely that there was a conspiracy to kill someone, as there would have to be if Baldwin didn't load the gun himself.

Even if he did, and hated the woman, I would still assume he was innocent until he had been convicted in court.

Actors only go to court of wasting police time ask Jussie Smollett.

Now this copper has the loudest bishop.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1067192...d-sex-act-video.html

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
usbacklash.org/alec-baldwin-movie-shooti...11ec8ef3b48a7dc9226f

It is extremely unlikely that there was a conspiracy to kill someone, as there would have to be if Baldwin didn't load the gun himself.

Even if he did, and hated the woman, I would still assume he was innocent until he had been convicted in court.

Actors only go to court of wasting police time ask Jussie Smollett.

Harvey Weinstein?

once the most powerful man in Hollywood.

I think the "slap" is a sleeper and outrage is slowly growing. Of course it pales when compared to shocking events like the invasion of Ukraine but the popular media cannot leave it alone.

Because Hollywood is perceived as "privileged" (and they are being rich as Croesus) they can hire the best lawyers but there are real practical concerns.

Will Smith tends to appear in blockbusters hat can cost $200M a time. Will investors be prepared to fund a film where the star may be boycotted at the box office?

Will insurance premiums for a Will Smith movie skyrocket as he is perceived to be unstable?

Will the Oscars Academy wonder if next year's production is boycotted if they fail to take action?

So many side stories to this such as film showing both Jada & Will laughing at the tame joke and then Jada seemingly laughing at The Slap.

Now black activists furious as it seems to re-enforce perceptions (nonsense of course) of Black on Black violence.

Hard to tell where all this will end.

I think this whole thing was a performance, not a staged/fake performance in cahoots with Chris Rock, but a "look at me" performance, the striding to the stage (after laughing initially), the slap, the striding off, the shouting and swearing, the tearful acceptance speech, the public "apology" on Instagram for PR purposes. I hope Smith is at least suspended from the Oscars for a few years.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
If Hollywood actors wants to beat up each other fucking let them ! They are above the law any way even Alec Baldwin is still walking the streets after murdering a film crew member.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10...s-acting-return.html

We don't know that he murdered anybody, poor sod.