Anyone with the slightest awareness of media would say "Boris is a very nice, charming and intelligent man who has, I'm sure, tried his best and has achieved much as Prime Minister. At this time I do not believe it appropriate to make any negative comments".

But stupid Starmer, like stupid Davey, stupid Sturgeon and the rest all think kicking a man (or woman) when they are down is an attractive sight for voters.

I agree. I thought the comment about sinking ships leaving a rat went too far. Felt a bit sorry for Boris with the front row of the Labour party glaring at him as Starmer held forth with his mechanical voice. For all Boris's faults, Starmer would be lucky to even have 10% of Boris's charisma. I've often wondered how successful Starmer was as a barrister in winning over juries, but I suppose that's a different situation.

Starmer is a typical lawyer.

They are not nice people and always have a chip on their shoulder. Keir Starmer is just gobshite like the rest of the MP's and front benchers.

JK2006 wrote:
Anyone with the slightest awareness of media would say "Boris is a very nice, charming and intelligent man who has, I'm sure, tried his best and has achieved much as Prime Minister. At this time I do not believe it appropriate to make any negative comments".

But stupid Starmer, like stupid Davey, stupid Sturgeon and the rest all think kicking a man (or woman) when they are down is an attractive sight for voters.

I agree. I also think it was remarkably stupid to state that Labour will not consider re joining the EU. How to hand a shed load of votes to the Liberals. Also, why shouldn't we reconsider? If the situation post Brexit continues to deteriorate and a majority wishes to re join why would we not?

Jo wrote:
I agree. I thought the comment about sinking ships leaving a rat went too far. Felt a bit sorry for Boris with the front row of the Labour party glaring at him as Starmer held forth with his mechanical voice. For all Boris's faults, Starmer would be lucky to even have 10% of Boris's charisma. I've often wondered how successful Starmer was as a barrister in winning over juries, but I suppose that's a different situation.

Probably in ear and out of the other. Most juries daydream and think about other things they could be doing instead of being forcefully sat in a stuffy and sticky court room.

Starmer is just a typical lawyer all hot air !

I'd like to rejoin the EU but that's simply impossible. We need to do it by stealth; rejoin the Single Market. Strengthen our ECHR links and promises. Then slowly return to the EU. Without telling the media.

JK2006 wrote:
I'd like to rejoin the EU but that's simply impossible. We need to do it by stealth; rejoin the Single Market. Strengthen our ECHR links and promises. Then slowly return to the EU. Without telling the media.

Like the plan....

JK2006 wrote:
I'd like to rejoin the EU but that's simply impossible. We need to do it by stealth; rejoin the Single Market. Strengthen our ECHR links and promises. Then slowly return to the EU. Without telling the media.

That's what Keir wants to do or join the European Federation.

www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/g...european-federation/

I don't believe a word from Keir's gob, he reminds me of Ted Cruz. novaramedia.com/2022/07/06/why-is-starme...doras-box-of-brexit/

I think Starmer shouldn't have dismissed re-joining the Customs Union. People didn't vote to leave the Custom's Union or know anything about it. It will still allow us to control our own immigration but resolve the stupid Northern Ireland issue.

Green Man wrote:
Jo wrote:
I agree. I thought the comment about sinking ships leaving a rat went too far. Felt a bit sorry for Boris with the front row of the Labour party glaring at him as Starmer held forth with his mechanical voice. For all Boris's faults, Starmer would be lucky to even have 10% of Boris's charisma. I've often wondered how successful Starmer was as a barrister in winning over juries, but I suppose that's a different situation.

Probably in ear and out of the other. Most juries daydream and think about other things they could be doing instead of being forcefully sat in a stuffy and sticky court room.

Starmer is just a typical lawyer all hot air !

Is it typical for a lawyer to not know that we are innocent until convicted? If I was Pinscher I'd have been inclined to run into the commons today and thump the nasty prick.

robbiex wrote:
I think Starmer shouldn't have dismissed re-joining the Customs Union. People didn't vote to leave the Custom's Union or know anything about it. It will still allow us to control our own immigration but resolve the stupid Northern Ireland issue.

Nice idea. However the government can't do anything about immigration due to ECHR. People are crossing across Europe to get to France and get inflatables to reach the UK. Then get picked up by Border Force along the way. Most are without any paper work. Then get allowances, free phones and nice accomadation in hotels all paid by the tax payers.

You thought after the Manchester Arena bombing the government would be tough.

They should find a route to Mexico and go up to California. consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sess...e4-b466-2dcb373d1e99

Yes, there is such thing as the American Dream. I lived there and worked there and loved every minute of it, my daughter's are there, I made a nice social circle of friends whom I am still in touch with since the 1980's. I even met very eccentric and wonderful people in Times Square, who claimed to be Jesus or Allah. I even got chatted up by some bloke at midnight showing of Cabaret in a seedy picture house, whom wanted me to sing along with him. He didn't know I lived above the bar where I worked with a couple of mice (hence being out so late).

Jim-boy used to go around the sex shops and XXX theatre's in a Columbo style coat, dark glasses and pretend to act like an authoritative figure. The panic he caused was great fun to watch, him being so tall also made him look more realistic.

I got my first car from a bloke in a pub with bad electrical faults which buffled the mechanics, but it was nice runner and got me where I needed to go only on the warmest of days though. Even the window wipers enjoyed being on most of the time.

Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
I think Starmer shouldn't have dismissed re-joining the Customs Union. People didn't vote to leave the Custom's Union or know anything about it. It will still allow us to control our own immigration but resolve the stupid Northern Ireland issue.

Nice idea. However the government can't do anything about immigration due to ECHR. People are crossing across Europe to get to France and get inflatables to reach the UK. Then get picked up by Border Force along the way. Most are without any paper work. Then get allowances, free phones and nice accomadation in hotels all paid by the tax payers.

You thought after the Manchester Arena bombing the government would be tough.

They should find a route to Mexico and go up to California. consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sess...e4-b466-2dcb373d1e99

Yes, there is such thing as the American Dream. I lived there and worked there and loved every minute of it, my daughter's are there, I made a nice social circle of friends whom I am still in touch with since the 1980's. I even met very eccentric and wonderful people in Times Square, who claimed to be Jesus or Allah. I even got chatted up by some bloke at midnight showing of Cabaret in a seedy picture house, whom wanted me to sing along with him. He didn't know I lived above the bar where I worked with a couple of mice (hence being out so late).

Jim-boy used to go around the sex shops and XXX theatre's in a Columbo style coat, dark glasses and pretend to act like an authoritative figure. The panic he caused was great fun to watch, him being so tall also made him look more realistic.

I got my first car from a bloke in a pub with bad electrical faults which buffled the mechanics, but it was nice runner and got me where I needed to go only on the warmest of days though. Even the window wipers enjoyed being on most of the time.

Manchester Arena, Borough Market, 7-7, Parson's Green etc. etc. They do come across in dingys but now they will be sent to Rwanda, at least 500 of them, which is all they have room for. Which is about 1 in every 50, so not much of a dis-incentive, not to mention the thousands it costs to send them there.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
I think Starmer shouldn't have dismissed re-joining the Customs Union. People didn't vote to leave the Custom's Union or know anything about it. It will still allow us to control our own immigration but resolve the stupid Northern Ireland issue.

Nice idea. However the government can't do anything about immigration due to ECHR. People are crossing across Europe to get to France and get inflatables to reach the UK. Then get picked up by Border Force along the way. Most are without any paper work. Then get allowances, free phones and nice accomadation in hotels all paid by the tax payers.

You thought after the Manchester Arena bombing the government would be tough.

They should find a route to Mexico and go up to California. consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sess...e4-b466-2dcb373d1e99

Yes, there is such thing as the American Dream. I lived there and worked there and loved every minute of it, my daughter's are there, I made a nice social circle of friends whom I am still in touch with since the 1980's. I even met very eccentric and wonderful people in Times Square, who claimed to be Jesus or Allah. I even got chatted up by some bloke at midnight showing of Cabaret in a seedy picture house, whom wanted me to sing along with him. He didn't know I lived above the bar where I worked with a couple of mice (hence being out so late).

Jim-boy used to go around the sex shops and XXX theatre's in a Columbo style coat, dark glasses and pretend to act like an authoritative figure. The panic he caused was great fun to watch, him being so tall also made him look more realistic.

I got my first car from a bloke in a pub with bad electrical faults which buffled the mechanics, but it was nice runner and got me where I needed to go only on the warmest of days though. Even the window wipers enjoyed being on most of the time.

Manchester Arena, Borough Market, 7-7, Parson's Green etc. etc. They do come across in dingys but now they will be sent to Rwanda, at least 500 of them, which is all they have room for. Which is about 1 in every 50, so not much of a dis-incentive, not to mention the thousands it costs to send them there.

Yes but it gets headlines and votes. You are being far too generous about their intentions Robbie!

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
I think Starmer shouldn't have dismissed re-joining the Customs Union. People didn't vote to leave the Custom's Union or know anything about it. It will still allow us to control our own immigration but resolve the stupid Northern Ireland issue.

Nice idea. However the government can't do anything about immigration due to ECHR. People are crossing across Europe to get to France and get inflatables to reach the UK. Then get picked up by Border Force along the way. Most are without any paper work. Then get allowances, free phones and nice accomadation in hotels all paid by the tax payers.

You thought after the Manchester Arena bombing the government would be tough.

They should find a route to Mexico and go up to California. consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sess...e4-b466-2dcb373d1e99

Yes, there is such thing as the American Dream. I lived there and worked there and loved every minute of it, my daughter's are there, I made a nice social circle of friends whom I am still in touch with since the 1980's. I even met very eccentric and wonderful people in Times Square, who claimed to be Jesus or Allah. I even got chatted up by some bloke at midnight showing of Cabaret in a seedy picture house, whom wanted me to sing along with him. He didn't know I lived above the bar where I worked with a couple of mice (hence being out so late).

Jim-boy used to go around the sex shops and XXX theatre's in a Columbo style coat, dark glasses and pretend to act like an authoritative figure. The panic he caused was great fun to watch, him being so tall also made him look more realistic.

I got my first car from a bloke in a pub with bad electrical faults which buffled the mechanics, but it was nice runner and got me where I needed to go only on the warmest of days though. Even the window wipers enjoyed being on most of the time.

Manchester Arena, Borough Market, 7-7, Parson's Green etc. etc. They do come across in dingys but now they will be sent to Rwanda, at least 500 of them, which is all they have room for. Which is about 1 in every 50, so not much of a dis-incentive, not to mention the thousands it costs to send them there.

Don't it cost the tax paye approx 5 million a day or a week to put them up in hotels ?

JK2006 wrote:
Anyone with the slightest awareness of media would say "Boris is a very nice, charming and intelligent man who has, I'm sure, tried his best and has achieved much as Prime Minister. At this time I do not believe it appropriate to make any negative comments".

But stupid Starmer, like stupid Davey, stupid Sturgeon and the rest all think kicking a man (or woman) when they are down is an attractive sight for voters.

all meaningless as the Tory press have turned on Boris.It's over.

Just as the Establishment media in the USA are abandoning Trump (keep your eye's peeled for the Murdock media's wind change)

But Starmer is mishandling the entire gift handed to him on a plate. Useless.