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Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
The appalling Mark Williams Thomas is on and nobody asks him about his past history. "Is it true you tried to sell the names and contacts of Jonathan King's false accusers to the national newspapers?". When talking about naming those accused, the interviewer - so far - fails to ask "Is it possible that the dozens prompted to come forward after publicity about a famous and wealthy person might have been motivated by greed or some other reason?". Why ever not? Hopefully these things - as well as the fact that Rolf Harris was declared Not Guilty of many charges on appeal, may emerge soon...
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
Well I absolutely hated the programme. Unlike the fat Met cop I reckon 80% of allegations are false, not 1-5%!!!
And Mark Williams Thomas is quite right - he started (in 2000) something which has been an enormous successful new industry - the False Allegations Industry, making millions for liars, exaggerators, criminals, bent cops, corrupt lawyers and, most of all, media and those making fortunes from the media - like Mark Williams Thomas. Without his show about a dead man there would have been far fewer fake claims and destroyed lives, careers and wrecked families.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
I wonder whether the fiddling of statistics is intentional or just stupidity? To say that only 1-5% of accusations are false - when all you consider is the allegations that lead to conviction - sadly shows up the fact that there are thousands of totally innocent men in jail (making up that 95-99% of "TRUE" allegations). It ignores the thousands that get acquitted, never get to court or are disposed of even before investigation. Many of the millions who claimed they were raped in a hospital car park by Jimmy Savile actually believe it happened - thanks to the media. Just read the hospital reports. Incredible rubbish, one after the other, from the genuinely deluded to those clearly after compensation, knowing he was dead so their lies could never be exposed.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
JK2006 wrote: I wonder whether the fiddling of statistics is intentional or just stupidity? To say that only 1-5% of accusations are false - when all you consider is the allegations that lead to conviction - sadly shows up the fact that there are thousands of totally innocent men in jail (making up that 95-99% of "TRUE" allegations). It ignores the thousands that get acquitted, never get to court or are disposed of even before investigation. Many of the millions who claimed they were raped in a hospital car park by Jimmy Savile actually believe it happened - thanks to the media. Just read the hospital reports. Incredible rubbish, one after the other, from the genuinely deluded to those clearly after compensation, knowing he was dead so their lies could never be exposed.
My partner was talking to a former nurse who worked at Stoke Mandeville Hospital. The ex nurse worked with Jimmy a lot. All she said was very suggestive with comments towards female staff and little bit touchy feely but never groped or pushed any nurse in a corner.
She said that Jimmy could be extremely annoying and a bit obnoxious but the staff were greatful for the fundraising.
She did say if Jimmy Savile did touch someone then she wasn't aware of it, no one reported it or complained to her. She said Jimmy touch her lower back when he kept asking for hugs, but his hands never wandered up her dress etc.
I don't like being hugged only from my friends or family. However there exceptions, I have man hugged male coworkers but it was either done for a laugh or they were leaving for a new job etc, I always did a farewell party or get them a present like an engraved harmonica. What else can you do in traffic jams ?
I have hugged Tubs when I see him or his brothers but it's only quick and pat on the back or shoulders.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
Green Man wrote: JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
It is very worrying about Gary Busey. He was in a horrible accident and suffered brain damage which he could not completely recover from.
He was in Celebrity Big Brother a few years ago, and he kept exposing himself but not in a sexual way. He also did this "thing" where he pulls his trousers down and fiddles with his injured knee when the pain gets too bad. I am not sure exactly what is happening, but he is clearly not right, poor man. I don't know what happened at the convention, but I am sure the media are fully aware that what they are portraying as "masturbation in public" is just some poor damaged sod who is unaware and in terrible pain.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
It is very worrying about Gary Busey. He was in a horrible accident and suffered brain damage which he could not completely recover from.
He was in Celebrity Big Brother a few years ago, and he kept exposing himself but not in a sexual way. He also did this "thing" where he pulls his trousers down and fiddles with his injured knee when the pain gets too bad. I am not sure exactly what is happening, but he is clearly not right, poor man. I don't know what happened at the convention, but I am sure the media are fully aware that what they are portraying as "masturbation in public" is just some poor damaged sod who is unaware and in terrible pain.
What I know and read his skull was shattered and almost died. If the frontal lobe is damaged and no doubt it is it causes erratic and eccentric behaviour. Don't forget he was a coke head that can cause damage to the brain.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
It is very worrying about Gary Busey. He was in a horrible accident and suffered brain damage which he could not completely recover from.
He was in Celebrity Big Brother a few years ago, and he kept exposing himself but not in a sexual way. He also did this "thing" where he pulls his trousers down and fiddles with his injured knee when the pain gets too bad. I am not sure exactly what is happening, but he is clearly not right, poor man. I don't know what happened at the convention, but I am sure the media are fully aware that what they are portraying as "masturbation in public" is just some poor damaged sod who is unaware and in terrible pain.
That's interesting I saw him on Celebrity Apprentice (probably the last time I watched proper TV) he kept flashing when he wore a dressing gown, it was done in humour but again inappropriate. Penn Jillette actually knew how to cope with Gary and knew how to humour him. However there were times when he was actually acting sane but he quickly flipped like a light switch. Some say it's an act however people who suffered recovered from strokes also do strange things in an instant.
Dementia is a cruel disease it eats you whilst you're alive. The people who suffer are loved ones.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 10 Months ago
Green Man wrote: Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
It is very worrying about Gary Busey. He was in a horrible accident and suffered brain damage which he could not completely recover from.
He was in Celebrity Big Brother a few years ago, and he kept exposing himself but not in a sexual way. He also did this "thing" where he pulls his trousers down and fiddles with his injured knee when the pain gets too bad. I am not sure exactly what is happening, but he is clearly not right, poor man. I don't know what happened at the convention, but I am sure the media are fully aware that what they are portraying as "masturbation in public" is just some poor damaged sod who is unaware and in terrible pain.
That's interesting I saw him on Celebrity Apprentice (probably the last time I watched proper TV) he kept flashing when he wore a dressing gown, it was done in humour but again inappropriate. Penn Jillette actually knew how to cope with Gary and knew how to humour him. However there were times when he was actually acting sane but he quickly flipped like a light switch. Some say it's an act however people who suffered recovered from strokes also do strange things in an instant.
Dementia is a cruel disease it eats you whilst you're alive. The people who suffer are loved ones.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 9 Months ago
I couldn't watch it - can't bear to hear Gambacinni, he was the cause of his own bad Karma and I for one was delighted he'd been arrested and more so that he was innocent. Still to this day I have to fend off insulations of necrophilia, stories about morgues and the rest all because of this man.
He will get no peace until he apologises to me personally and publicly. I'm left speechless at his audacity and arrogance that he can berate everyone else for lies and rumours but can't take a good long hard look in the mirror at himself.
Note to Gambacinni, you are a disgrace sir, you made our situation a 1000 times worse for a quick slot on TV & Radio - shame on you. You too are a False Accuser.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 9 Months ago
Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: JK2006 wrote: The media STILL cannot accept - example - the Neil Fox verdict - that a celebrity can be innocent. He was. He is. Yes - the Judges believed the women were speaking the truth. I'm sure they were. They interpreted events - in hindsight and totally influenced by the media agenda which, these days, is that a peck on a cheek is rape - they genuinely believed they were victims. They weren't. He was.
Gary Busey has been charged, the man had horrific head injuries in the late 1980's. Now Gary is nearly 80 and probably has early dementia also. I have watched Gary Busey on numerous reality TV shows and interviews. His films were nearly always on TV in the late 90s on North America TV.
He is normally just loud and very hyper when being interviewed and his acting has changed considerably over the last 20 years.
My mate Jim-boy has been to dozens to film conventions and has met Gary Busey several times at the conventions. He always said he was loud but did pose for photos, always approachable and he sign memorabilia without hesitation.
Jim-boy did say you can tell Gary's faculties are getting bad when he last saw a few years ago, his speech is getting worse and also looked more uncoordinated than usual. I will have to Jim-boy if he saw him at the convention where the incident happened.
It is very worrying about Gary Busey. He was in a horrible accident and suffered brain damage which he could not completely recover from.
He was in Celebrity Big Brother a few years ago, and he kept exposing himself but not in a sexual way. He also did this "thing" where he pulls his trousers down and fiddles with his injured knee when the pain gets too bad. I am not sure exactly what is happening, but he is clearly not right, poor man. I don't know what happened at the convention, but I am sure the media are fully aware that what they are portraying as "masturbation in public" is just some poor damaged sod who is unaware and in terrible pain.
That's interesting I saw him on Celebrity Apprentice (probably the last time I watched proper TV) he kept flashing when he wore a dressing gown, it was done in humour but again inappropriate. Penn Jillette actually knew how to cope with Gary and knew how to humour him. However there were times when he was actually acting sane but he quickly flipped like a light switch. Some say it's an act however people who suffered recovered from strokes also do strange things in an instant.
Dementia is a cruel disease it eats you whilst you're alive. The people who suffer are loved ones.
I found it...
So Channel 4 have exploited another vulnerable person for ratings.
Re:Cliff, Gambo, Foxy on Ch4 2 Years, 9 Months ago
JK2006 wrote: The appalling Mark Williams Thomas is on and nobody asks him about his past history. "Is it true you tried to sell the names and contacts of Jonathan King's false accusers to the national newspapers?". When talking about naming those accused, the interviewer - so far - fails to ask "Is it possible that the dozens prompted to come forward after publicity about a famous and wealthy person might have been motivated by greed or some other reason?". Why ever not? Hopefully these things - as well as the fact that Rolf Harris was declared Not Guilty of many charges on appeal, may emerge soon...
If you have this information why haven't you made it public?
Judge Deborah Taylor referred to it in her judgement after your trial in 2018.
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