“Whitehall sees the Ukraine war as an opportunity.”

UK governments don't just go to war for moral or humanitarian purposes; but often for strategic and financial gain. The true reasons are not their professed high-minded claims about defending democracy or stopping war crimes.

Britain acquiesces to such crimes in its own current conflicts notably in Yemen, and UK interest in democracy is nowhere to be seen when they support various dictatorships such as Saudis in the Gulf, or Egypt.

UK opposition to illegal foreign occupations is dropped in its increasing military support over decades for Israel in Palestinian territories; while conveniently ignoring close ally U.S. illegal invasions and barbaric wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya.

Meanwhile, Whitehall and Downing Street soon saw the Ukraine war as a financial opportunity for arms sales and currency deals.

In March, grasping Foreign Secretary LIZ TRUSS (now P.M.) declared, “We will cripple Russia’s economic development in both the short and long term” with heavy sanctions imposed on Russia following its illegal invasion of Ukraine in February.

declassifieduk.org/explainer-britains-proxy-war-on-russia/

This piece would be balanced if it also castigated Putin for invading a sovereign country and killing people.

Why do we so rarely see a grown up commentary that acknowledges Western provocation via territorial expansion since the fall of the Berlin Wall AND condemnation of Putin. Why is this so difficult?

Instead, it has to be either someone is The Goodie and another The Baddie; like a John Wayne Western, or superhero cartoon.

The real story is that we are risking nuclear conflict because the majority of people think like infants.

Wyot wrote:
This piece would be balanced if it also castigated Putin for invading a sovereign country and killing people.

Why do we so rarely see a grown up commentary that acknowledges Western provocation via territorial expansion since the fall of the Berlin Wall AND condemnation of Putin. Why is this so difficult?

Instead, it has to be either someone is The Goodie and another The Baddie; like a John Wayne Western, or superhero cartoon.

The real story is that we are risking nuclear conflict because the majority of people think like infants.

Recheck the last line: "sanctions imposed on Russia following its ILLEGAL INVASION of Ukraine in February."

Whole Truth wrote:
Wyot wrote:
This piece would be balanced if it also castigated Putin for invading a sovereign country and killing people.

Why do we so rarely see a grown up commentary that acknowledges Western provocation via territorial expansion since the fall of the Berlin Wall AND condemnation of Putin. Why is this so difficult?

Instead, it has to be either someone is The Goodie and another The Baddie; like a John Wayne Western, or superhero cartoon.

The real story is that we are risking nuclear conflict because the majority of people think like infants.

Recheck the last line: "sanctions imposed on Russia following its ILLEGAL INVASION of Ukraine in February."

The last line....my point precisely.

Wyot wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:
Wyot wrote:
This piece would be balanced if it also castigated Putin for invading a sovereign country and killing people.

Why do we so rarely see a grown up commentary that acknowledges Western provocation via territorial expansion since the fall of the Berlin Wall AND condemnation of Putin. Why is this so difficult?

Instead, it has to be either someone is The Goodie and another The Baddie; like a John Wayne Western, or superhero cartoon.

The real story is that we are risking nuclear conflict because the majority of people think like infants.

Recheck the last line: "sanctions imposed on Russia following its ILLEGAL INVASION of Ukraine in February."

The last line....my point precisely.

Precise point taken, and FAR OUTWEIGHED by U.S. ILLEGAL INVASIONS Worldwide since WW2.

www.voltairenet.org/article204021.html

Whole Truth wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Whole Truth wrote:
Wyot wrote:


The last line....my point precisely.

Precise point taken, and FAR OUTWEIGHED by U.S. ILLEGAL INVASIONS Worldwide since WW2.

www.voltairenet.org/article204021.html

And?

I haven't argued that the US or Putin are "worse". That doesn't interest me.

What I find troubling is the growing inability of people to understand that people can hold two positions on a single subject that don't contradict one another.

So -

The West provoked Putin AND Putin is wrong somehow = Putin apologist!

We over reacted to Covid causing harm with ineffective measures AND Covid can be dangerous to some we must do what we reasonably can = anti vax callous conspiracy theorist!

People can do terrible things to one another AND people should be treated with respect in the CJS = paedophile defender!

So few people listen or hear anymore.

We may as well just yell: "blahblahblah" at one another sometimes.

I probably spend too much time on social media - because the world does at times seem such a silly, noisy place now...