The countries that really fell for the media hype and "stopped the spread" - China and New Zealand - are now reaping the results of it.

JK2006 wrote:
The countries that really fell for the media hype and "stopped the spread" - China and New Zealand - are now reaping the results of it.

The whole thing was a shame same with vaccines. The ones I know who had the job were never same after.

I think you mean SHAM GM and I've had 5 jabs and am much the same as I was in 2019.

The Chinese spokesman, indignant that the US and other countries have imposed Covid testing for arrivals from China, says restrictions must only be applied on a "scientific basis".

Science is a methodology used to describe the world, not a justification in itself for social health care policy.

We live in a world where crack cocaine is illegal but bacon is not. Both could be "justified" as illegal based on what science demonstrates they do to the body.

Science can describe how the virus works, not on a cost benefit analysis how we should react to it.

That is a political decision, and always has been. As the spokesman well knows.

As the reckless stupidity of lockdowns becomes more evident by the week, don't let them get away with it; in Bejing or London.

"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

Wyot wrote:
"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

I am betting that the government will do another lockdown (to flatten another curve then move the goalposts again for another year or so) and a climate lockdown in either 2025 or 2030.

Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

I am betting that the government will do another lockdown (to flatten another curve then move the goalposts again for another year or so) and a climate lockdown in either 2025 or 2030.

They can sod right off. That ship has sailed.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

I am betting that the government will do another lockdown (to flatten another curve then move the goalposts again for another year or so) and a climate lockdown in either 2025 or 2030.

They can sod right off. That ship has sailed.

I didn't see much resistance from the public during the regional and national lockdowns.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

I am betting that the government will do another lockdown (to flatten another curve then move the goalposts again for another year or so) and a climate lockdown in either 2025 or 2030.

They can sod right off. That ship has sailed.

I didn't see much resistance from the public during the regional and national lockdowns.

It doesnt mean they would be willing to do it again.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
"Follow the science...".

Okay then, vaccines for young adults cause "net harm".

jme.bmj.com/content/early/2022/12/05/jme-2022-108449

From 30-40k vaccines administered 1 hospitalisation is forecast with 18.5 individuals suffering adverse consequences from the booster.

This is repeat NOT about vaccine conspiracies (vaccines were a great net positive for the middle aged upwards).

This is about proportionality of response, and how off the back of media sensationalism this was lost (net harm was not even allowed to be publically considered!) when considering lockdowns and other interventions.

Daily, for anyone who cares to look, the evidence mounts vindicating the few voices talking sense and urging calm over the past couple of years.

The only investigation committee we need is one into how we stop the world being run by media, not into the localised fuck ups (or corruption - ppe contracts, etc) of our politicians. Who cares about that: they are gone. That is not the REAL question.

This will all happen again, with different clothes, unless we wake up, and take indivudual responsibility for calmly questioning and considering media priorities and reporting across all areas of life.

Lives, literally, depend on it.

I am betting that the government will do another lockdown (to flatten another curve then move the goalposts again for another year or so) and a climate lockdown in either 2025 or 2030.

They can sod right off. That ship has sailed.

I didn't see much resistance from the public during the regional and national lockdowns.

It doesnt mean they would be willing to do it again.

I saw more sheeple fighting over Prime energy drink made by 2 Youtubers than fighting over their civil liberties.

It feels like we are being "warmed up" doesn't it? But hopefully it is just a feeling...

Masks and new strains of Covid all over the news. Strains that- buried in the small print - are no more dangerous than others.

Same old disingenuous stuff.

Yet we are being asked to don masks; still lacking any persuasive evidence they do anything.

Just had a text from my GP Surgery urging that if I visit can I please wear a mask? I thought I had time-travelled to 2020 for a moment. Next the schools will email us parents about distancing at drop offs and wearing masks...I guarantee it.

I picture our pathetic Gov hunched over the cabinet table, trying to decide whether to use Covid to divert attention from the perennial winter NHS crisis, and introducing restrictions or even lockdowns again.

Or not locking down in order to not make the economy any worse but appearing indifferent about dead pensioners.

Which approach will lose us the least voters (i.e what will the media say)? They scratch their heads *

Trapped.

* Not sure why they are bothering - if strikes go on like this we will all effectively be locked down anyway.

A colleague tells me London was a "ghost town" today.*

More reason to ignore the MSM.