It is in - masks made "zero" difference to the spread of Covid 19:

www.city-journal.org/new-cochrane-study-on-masks-and-covid

Cochrane is widely regarded as the "gold standard" scientific review process and evaluation. The evidence, for all who respect the scientific process is now irrefutable.

And those of us here and elsewhere who argued the response to Covid was media rather than science led (as most people believed), wholly vindicated.

Opinions still differ - masks are a 'highly relevant tool'


cepr.org/voxeu/columns/mask-mandates-save-lives

Trained people wearing properly fitted masks and following correct hygiene procedure are quite safe.
This is not the same as dangling what is effectively a well used handkerchief across your face and rubbing the collected snot and virus into your eyes regularly, which is what people did instead.

It could never succeed because nobody had the right masks (except for a few smartarses ) and there was no substitute.
I can accept that it was not possible to provide the correct equipment, but how do you get from "only medical fitted masks work" to "we have got no masks therefore we will just pretend" ?

Leona Mace wrote:
Opinions still differ - masks are a 'highly relevant tool'


cepr.org/voxeu/columns/mask-mandates-save-lives

An opinion piece written by two economists two years ago...

Really Barney, you must "follow the science" you know...

Are you saying you know better than scientists!? Tut tut that is very arrogant...

Honey wrote:


I can accept that it was not possible to provide the correct equipment, but how do you get from "only medical fitted masks work" to "we have got no masks therefore we will just pretend" ?

Same with social distancing and lockdowns. It was an act of faith with scant to no evidential base. The media made the people demand protection by their hysterical inflation. The Government panicked and were happy to provide the illusion. And thus we went down the rabbit hole.

(Yet to come out...)

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


I can accept that it was not possible to provide the correct equipment, but how do you get from "only medical fitted masks work" to "we have got no masks therefore we will just pretend" ?

Same with social distancing and lockdowns. It was an act of faith with scant to no evidential base. The media made the people demand protection by their hysterical inflation. The Government panicked and were happy to provide the illusion. And thus we went down the rabbit hole.

(Yet to come out...)

And, it is impossible for there ever to be a proper conclusion on what worked and what didn't, because the "guidance" as Hancock now calls it, was too ridiculous for anyone to follow even if they wanted to.

Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


I can accept that it was not possible to provide the correct equipment, but how do you get from "only medical fitted masks work" to "we have got no masks therefore we will just pretend" ?

Same with social distancing and lockdowns. It was an act of faith with scant to no evidential base. The media made the people demand protection by their hysterical inflation. The Government panicked and were happy to provide the illusion. And thus we went down the rabbit hole.

(Yet to come out...)

If there was WW3, Orange Man BAD didn't press the button.

www.skynews.com.au/opinion/us-under-bide...f059747e000a6c8e20a4

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Honey wrote:


If there was WW3, Orange Man BAD didn't press the button.

www.skynews.com.au/opinion/us-under-bide...f059747e000a6c8e20a4

The West's provocations in Ukraine are undeniable GM but go back a long way; this isn't just down to Biden.

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Honey wrote:


If there was WW3, Orange Man BAD didn't press the button.

www.skynews.com.au/opinion/us-under-bide...f059747e000a6c8e20a4

The West's provocations in Ukraine are undeniable GM but go back a long way; this isn't just down to Biden.

It's Rishi, Boris also Macron also. They are all in the same club Wyot.

You should watch this Wyot.

So a 15 year old lad who called Witty a liar got a bollocking whilst Whitty is the fucking liar.





www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9215899...s-Whitty-street.html

Eddie Cock Ring wrote:
www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks...-cochrane-study.html

Far left newspaper with an article written by a far leftist.

I used to read New York Times and New Post when I lived in New York. I hated both newspapers. Both were too extreme for me.

Eddie Cock Ring wrote:
www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/opinion/masks...-cochrane-study.html

That is interesting Cock Ring thanks for posting.

It does look as if the Cochrane review may be flawed. With so much contradictory, confused and in some cases plain false information out there, the author's call for much more data on mask efficacy seems pressing.

If cynics like me are in fact wrong on masks (or rather not wrong as such just not persuaded by the available evidence) then we need definitive research available.

One day, after all, a really serious virus may arrive.

Is Jeremy Hunt morphing into Tony Blair?