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#232135
Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Regular visitors to this site will know that I consider Dickens to be the greatest Englishman of all time and possibly the greatest ever human being. I'm delighted to see another version of Great Expectations. I still consider the first 15 minutes of the David Lean movie to be the finest example of cinema ever.
I shall be watching at 9pm tonight on BBC1 with anticipation.
 
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#232137
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
I also love Dickens, as you know. I may watch this but it looks like it is a needlessly sensationalist interpretation. I hope it works! But have doubts.
 
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#232148
Green Man

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
To me Uriah Heep are a band.

How does it feel Wyoy to be an intellect? I bet you taught the class whilst the teacher listened.


Did you smoke a pipe behind bike shed?


I love to see your school reports. I bet you got top marks just for walking to the class room.
 
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#232160
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
To me Uriah Heep are a band.

How does it feel Wyoy to be an intellect? I bet you taught the class whilst the teacher listened.


Did you smoke a pipe behind bike shed?


I love to see your school reports. I bet you got top marks just for walking to the class room.


You have me so wrong GM! I was once put on report for not getting to the classroom. Also for informing my college tutors that I wasn't going to bother attending my mock A level exams as I "did not require a practice run" and they should "relax" as I will get A grades regardless in the finals (reader, I did). I was, in short, a total twat.
 
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#232170
Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Episode One excellent - I loved it!
 
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#232174
hedda

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
I also love Dickens, as you know. I may watch this but it looks like it is a needlessly sensationalist interpretation. I hope it works! But have doubts.

like JK I lurve Dickens and think he was a genius when it came to the human condition.

They say this new film is full of swearing and dreadful things but perhaps it's time ti include many of societies warts Dickens avoibed for literary reasons.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
 
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#232183
Green Man

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
To me Uriah Heep are a band.

How does it feel Wyoy to be an intellect? I bet you taught the class whilst the teacher listened.


Did you smoke a pipe behind bike shed?


I love to see your school reports. I bet you got top marks just for walking to the class room.


You have me so wrong GM! I was once put on report for not getting to the classroom. Also for informing my college tutors that I wasn't going to bother attending my mock A level exams as I "did not require a practice run" and they should "relax" as I will get A grades regardless in the finals (reader, I did). I was, in short, a total twat.


You proved them that you succeeded without practise runs. What did you study Wyot out of curiosity?

Twats are useful and sometimes tasty Wyot.
 
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#232186
Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
It's terrific Hedda - so far.
 
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#232187
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
hedda wrote:
Wyot wrote:
I also love Dickens, as you know. I may watch this but it looks like it is a needlessly sensationalist interpretation. I hope it works! But have doubts.

like JK I lurve Dickens and think he was a genius when it came to the human condition.

They say this new film is full of swearing and dreadful things but perhaps it's time ti include many of societies warts Dickens avoibed for literary reasons.

I LOOK FORWARD TO IT.


Okay okay if JK AND Hedda think it is worth watching I will give it a go. But Miss Haversham smoking opium...I ask you...
 
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#232188
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
*Havisham* I know I know!

Just come out of a long day of meetings...
 
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#232189
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:


You proved them that you succeeded without practise runs. What did you study Wyot out of curiosity?

Twats are useful and sometimes tasty Wyot.


Classics, English & History.

And don't be vulgar GM!
 
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#232195
Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Purists will grumble (and yes I winced at the NON discovery of the pie) but the liberties taken cannot remove the deep and absolute genius of Dickens - I thought Gillian Anderson's brilliant Lady Deadlock in the TV version of Bleak House (my favourite of his novels) was absolutely magnificent. Nobody can match Martita Hunt's Havisham. That opening of Lean's GE remains possibly the best ever ten minutes of film. But this worked very well. Captured the atmosphere. Bernard Miles remains the perfect Gargery. But a different approach need not destroy the brilliance of the novel and a good one can enhance it. So far, this is great!
 
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#232198
Green Man

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:


You proved them that you succeeded without practise runs. What did you study Wyot out of curiosity?

Twats are useful and sometimes tasty Wyot.


Classics, English & History.

And don't be vulgar GM!


Sorry, sir.
 
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#232202
Honey

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Green Man wrote:
To me Uriah Heep are a band.

How does it feel Wyoy to be an intellect? I bet you taught the class whilst the teacher listened.


Did you smoke a pipe behind bike shed?


I love to see your school reports. I bet you got top marks just for walking to the class room.


Dickens is not for intellectuals, Greenman. It was the Coronation street of it's day.
You will enjoy it, but please read the book before watching the film or series.

And for God's sake avoid spoilers.
 
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#232215
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
I enjoyed episode one. Retains the spirit of Dickens. I hope the next episodes (which I understand will really ramp up the sensationalist deviation from the script) will not lose this. Coleman gloriously sinister already!
 
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#232218
Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
It will be hard for anyone to be as fantastic as Alec Guinness was as Herbert Pocket (the pale boy). Pip is easy - another of Dickens' clever blotting paper heroes or heroines. But the reason this is so good is that it takes the brilliant story and adapts the way society in 2023 looks at it. I really like that.
 
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#232444
Wyot

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Dear God episode 2...what a load of shit. Utter rubbish. Nothing to do with Dickens puritanism - just crap drama.

Funnily enough I had the same problem with Peaky Blinders (same writer). Thought I had really stumbled on something then it just got sillier sillier...
 
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#232449
Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Yes WYOT - 2 nowhere near as good as 1 - but I'm staying with it.
 
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#232450
Green Man

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
Dear God episode 2...what a load of shit. Utter rubbish. Nothing to do with Dickens puritanism - just crap drama.

Funnily enough I had the same problem with Peaky Blinders (same writer). Thought I had really stumbled on something then it just got sillier sillier...


That's what happens Wyot, when you don't walk around Hindhead, Runnymede, Greensand Way. Your brain gets lost on some TV show. After your brain goes anything happen.

Ask Mrs Wyot to get you walking poles and some hiking boots and a Mounting Warehouse voucher for your birthday and anniversary present. You will find food on the way.
 
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#232452
Honey

Re:Great Expectations 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
Dear God episode 2...what a load of shit. Utter rubbish. Nothing to do with Dickens puritanism - just crap drama.

Funnily enough I had the same problem with Peaky Blinders (same writer). Thought I had really stumbled on something then it just got sillier sillier...



I gave Great expectations a good go, but it really was a stinking shile of pite.
 
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