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#234452
Jo

MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Has MWT also left the This Morning sofa? This Morning - Holly Willoughby and Craig Doyle - have done an interview today about the Madeleine McCann case, not with MWT (whom they - Holly Willoughby and Phillip Schofield - interviewed in May 2022 for the 15-year anniversary of the disappearance) but with Dr David Wilson. I seem to remember that Dr David Wilson was critical of MWT on Twitter regarding the disappearance of Nicola Bulley and, if I'm not mistaken, had previously made his opinion of MWT known to JK. Unlike MWT, who has recently been criticising the German police on Twitter about the Madeleine McCann case (is there ever a case where he doesn't criticise and know better than the police?), Dr David Wilson doesn't make any criticism of the police and seems to think their suspect is a likely one.



 
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#234468
Honey

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Nobody in their right mind would let MWT bleat his ludicrous and insulting theories about Madeleine McCann "wandering off" again.
 
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Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Kate's first alert to the other Brit professionals in the bar was a medical term, "We've let he down." NOT "She's missing!"

Tragic Maddie slipped from the couch onto the tiled floor by the window where she had watched her dad talking to a tennis partner.

The Brit pros then all planned and performed criminal acts of concealing and disposing of a body. Truth later twisted by bent-Brit cops, media, and establishment to create another fake-scapegoat in Germany.

Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida told the court that he believed the couple, from Rothley, Leicestershire, were directly involved in Madeleine’s disappearance – a theory he said was shared by Portuguese and British officers working on the case.

He said: “The conclusion that was arrived at was that Madeleine McCann died at the apartment and the McCann couple simulated the abduction to hide the fact that they had not taken care of their children.

“There was a tragic accident in the apartment that night and they neglected the care of their children. It was the conclusion of both Portuguese and British police. We have always spoken of a tragic accidental death. There was no homicide.”

Asked if he thought Madeleine was dead, Mr de Almeida replied: “Yes. She is dead. It was not only the police who believed this but the public prosecutor. The McCanns did not kill her but they concealed the body.” Mr de Almeida was giving evidence on behalf of his former colleague Goncalo Amaral who is seeking to overturn a ban on the book he wrote about the Madeleine case entitled Maddie: The Truth Of The Lie.

The detective described the book as a “true history of the facts”. He said: “Goncalo Amaral was very careful to come to this conclusion with the facts.”

Luis Neves, the head of Portugal’s anti-terrorism unit, told the court they had employed a British profiler who gave him the impression that the McCanns were guilty of involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.

Mr de Almeida said their suspicions about the couple appeared to be confirmed when sniffer dogs found traces of blood and the smell of death at the McCanns’ holiday apartment.

One of the dogs was in a nervous, excitable state and wanted to get into the room, said Mr de Almeida.

He said: “Inside the apartment there were two places where the dogs gave a sign. One was in the bedroom, the other was in the dining room.

“It was also found in the McCanns’ new apartment on a piece of clothing and in the rental car.”

Asked if it was the dog’s reaction that led police to make the McCanns formal suspects in the investigation, he said: “No, they were already suspected of simulating a kidnapping and concealing the body.”

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/151405/Maddie-...partment-court-hears
 
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#234474
Wyot

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Whole Truth wrote:


The Brit pros then all planned and performed criminal acts of concealing and disposing of a body. Truth later twisted by bent-Brit cops, media, and establishment to create another fake-scapegoat in Germany.

Asked if he thought Madeleine was dead, Mr de Almeida replied: “Yes. She is dead. It was not only the police who believed this but the public prosecutor. The McCanns did not kill her but they concealed the body.”



So let me get this straight...

They selfishly neglected their child who died in an accident. To cover this up they then enlisted friends and colleagues they were on holiday with to dispose of their three year olds body/lie in numbers.

All of these people were prepared to do this and then lie to the authorities risking jail time in Portugal, professional ruin and shame brought on their families.

As well as all being probably in the psychologically one percent of people capable of disposing of the body of a toddler and then keeping totally cool about it under Police scrutiny and world-wide media attention.

They all then keep quiet for many years.

Despite Police losing all interest in them what do The McCanns then do? They decide to use every opportunity with the media/funding/books to keep the case and search for their (as they know successfully buried daughter) as high profile as possible?

British Police meanwhile are on to this but are "bent" and instead of solving the crime prefer to leave a German "scapegoat" to take the rap.

They are aided in this by the media who instead of running the great story of a bunch of GPs hiding a body and kidding the worlds media, decide to join in the cover up for no obvious reason.

While the British establishment goes out of its way to also cover up and protect a couple of GPs from up north.

I'm no Detective but this sounds like total bollocks from start to finish...
 
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#234477
Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
With you WYOT
 
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#234479
Honey

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
JK2006 wrote:
With you WYOT

There are many daft theories, but MWT's theory of her wandering off takes the cake.

Madeleine's toy was placed high up out of reach. This is how the parents knew she hadn't wandered off.

If,(not my belief) they killed her, they would WANT it to look like she had wandered off somewhere, not narrow it down to an unlikely sounding abduction by planting toys on high shelves.

It annoys me that someone with the respect that goes along with being an ex detective should smear the McCanns without even looking at the most basic evidence.
 
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#234490
Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Pro-Justice JK wrote, "With you WYOT."

Bollocks: 1) that Kate used the medical term for a deceased patient; 2) that the dogs found traces of blood beneath the window and cadaver in the closet and car; 3) that the boozed-up Brit pros in-a-panic covered up their temporary neglect by concealing the body and later disposing of it.

Bollocks x 3?
 
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#234491
Jo

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
The McCanns being responsible makes no sense to me either, but might be logical for a police force that had fouled up and had no other avenues to pursue.
 
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#234493
Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Drop the expert sniffer dogs' bollocks.

Go with pro-Justice JK and WYOT.

The Tapas-9 Brits all knew: 1) Kate's alert was a medic's term for a deceased patient; 2) Maddie accidentally fell and died beneath the window before being concealed in a closet and then moved to a car and finally 'disposed of'; 3) all criminally omitted in statements by all nine Brits in a hot panic, 4) naturally devastated Kate later refused to answer cops' questions or take a polygraph test.

Compare, innocent JK's criminal false accuser, criminally alerted to a 'blue door' by criminal Brit cops - all coldly in no panic.

Bonus: Jaw-not-bollocks dropping footage of sniffer dogs alerting in McCann apartment and car.
www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-...56-b78a-feba29e32380
 
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#234495
Wyot

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Whole Truth wrote:
Pro-Justice JK wrote, "With you WYOT."

Bollocks: 1) that Kate used the medical term for a deceased patient; 2) that the dogs found traces of blood beneath the window and cadaver in the closet and car; 3) that the boozed-up Brit pros in-a-panic covered up their temporary neglect by concealing the body and later disposing of it.

Bollocks x 3?


Total.

It is the quality of the "evidence" you rely on WT.

1) What frame of mind would a mum be finding her daughter has been taken? Of course she might fear her murdered. She is medically trained. Amounts to nothing. Even if she said it, which she contests.

2) According to your article the sniffer dog tests were not legally submissible. This should make you question your reliance on them.

3) 1 & 2 barely amount to evidence but 3 is total speculation.

The Police Chief is trying to get a block on his book lifted. His neutrality must be questioned.

As I have outlined in my previous post, your narrative makes zero psychological sense.

So yes we disagree on this one WT.
 
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#234496
Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Jo wrote, "The McCanns being responsible makes no sense to me either, but might be logical for a police force that had fouled up and had no other avenues to pursue."

WT writes, "The devastated McCanns and panicked Tapas-bar Brits responsible for their criminal coverup. Exposed by Brit sniffer-dogs and good-cop Goncalo Amaral, makes perfect sense to millions."

 
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#234504
Wyot

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Whole Truth wrote:
Jo wrote, "The McCanns being responsible makes no sense to me either, but might be logical for a police force that had fouled up and had no other avenues to pursue."

WT writes, "The devastated McCanns and panicked Tapas-bar Brits responsible for their criminal coverup. Exposed by Brit sniffer-dogs and good-cop Goncalo Amaral, makes perfect sense to millions."



But what are the tapas bar Brits panicking about WT to make them all cover it up?

Saddened, distraught. Yes. But panic? They have done nothing.

Genuine question?

If I was writing a novel with this as a possible scenario I would discount it as simply not within the bounds of how anyone in this situation would react.

As for millions believing it is plausible - well, if you are correct, this is no surprise to me!
 
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#234505
Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
In my novel Death Flies, Missing Girls and Brigitte Bardot I answer all questions and provide the answer.

www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Flies-Missing-Bri...aps%2C120&sr=8-1
 
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Last Edit: 2023/06/09 18:04 By JK2006.
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Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
WYOT wrote, "But what are the tapas bar Brits panicking about WT to make them all cover it up? Saddened, distraught. Yes. But panic? They have done nothing.

Genuine question?"

Genuine answers, empathetically, in their place panicking with limited options.

1) Responsibly, promptly call the cops (which they didn't do for nearly an hour) and face the fact that they might all be accused, with huge Brit media mock-outrage, of multiple child neglect/abuses while selfishly boozing; and one child already accidentally dead.

2) Selfishly, panic and promptly conceal the body in a closet, then quickly remove the body hidden in the bush. Before cops arrive to be falsely told that she's vanished. Then later dispose of the body, which is most likely what really happened.

Option-3 I can't see, stuck, over to UHU?
 
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#234509
Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
As I say in my novel I reckon she's alive and well, the purchased much loved daughter of a wealthy childless couple.
 
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Wyot

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Whole Truth wrote:


Genuine answers, empathetically, in their place panicking with limited options.

1) Responsibly, promptly call the cops (which they didn't do for nearly an hour) and face the fact that they might all be accused, with huge Brit media mock-outrage, of multiple child neglect/abuses while selfishly boozing; and one child already accidentally dead.

2) Selfishly, panic and promptly conceal the body in a closet, then quickly remove the body hidden in the bush. Before cops arrive to be falsely told that she's vanished. Then later dispose of the body, which is most likely what really happened.
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Option-3 I can't see, stuck, over to UHU?


Thanks for genuinely engaging with this WT. My responses:

1) I can understand why the group would initially look for the girl with hotel staff rather than immediately call Police. At that stage the natural reaction would be to assume she is wandering the grounds. I don't know of any legal system that would charge the friends/associates of parents for neglect. There is no crime of child neglect by association. These were educated medical professionals, not career criminals.

2) Again, can't understand what they would possibly would have panicked about. I just don't believe that all the McCanns friends saw the dead child. Panicked that they would be blamed as well as the parents. And all helped put her in a closet before later burying her and said nothing then or during the following years.

3) Sorry, not sure what you mean.
 
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Honey

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Wyot wrote:
Whole Truth wrote:


Genuine answers, empathetically, in their place panicking with limited options.

1) Responsibly, promptly call the cops (which they didn't do for nearly an hour) and face the fact that they might all be accused, with huge Brit media mock-outrage, of multiple child neglect/abuses while selfishly boozing; and one child already accidentally dead.

2) Selfishly, panic and promptly conceal the body in a closet, then quickly remove the body hidden in the bush. Before cops arrive to be falsely told that she's vanished. Then later dispose of the body, which is most likely what really happened.
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Option-3 I can't see, stuck, over to UHU?


Thanks for genuinely engaging with this WT. My responses:

1) I can understand why the group would initially look for the girl with hotel staff rather than immediately call Police. At that stage the natural reaction would be to assume she is wandering the grounds. I don't know of any legal system that would charge the friends/associates of parents for neglect. There is no crime of child neglect by association. These were educated medical professionals, not career criminals.

2) Again, can't understand what they would possibly would have panicked about. I just don't believe that all the McCanns friends saw the dead child. Panicked that they would be blamed as well as the parents. And all helped put her in a closet before later burying her and said nothing then or during the following years.

3) Sorry, not sure what you mean.



Wyot, as I tried to explain about MWT's nonsense, they KNEW the child had not wandered off because her toy she was sleeping with had been placed out of her reach. (and other things)

They DID call police swiftly, taking into account the panic and language difficulties.

Again, I am not implying guilt...

The reason the McCanns were not charged with child neglect is simply that to do so would place the children in one location and the parents in the other and possibly scupper a charge of murder. They could not kill her if they were somewhere else.

It was/is thought that the children were not actually left alone, and this was an alibi for something else, you see.
 
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Whole Truth

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
WYOT wrote, "I just don't believe that all the McCanns friends saw the dead child. Panicked that they would be blamed as well as the parents. And all helped put her in a closet before later burying her and said nothing then or during the following years."

Contextualised, timeline of overwhelming circumstantial evidence, with all others, like opportunist fake-Media, German cops, and MWT just profiteering speculators - as usual?

1) Kate found Maddie dead and bloodied beneath the window (later proven by an expert dog).

2) Kate then told the eight Tapas-bar Brits (including Gerry) who all became witnesses after the fact, though some may not have seen the body and went back to be with their own children.

3) Five or six Brits did see dead Maddie and were then witnesses to the fact.

4) Distraught and panicked discussions followed, with only two options considered. A: do the convential thing, promptly call the cops and face the fact that all-nine boozy Brits might be accused and publicised as child abusers by neglect; B: do what they did as desperate but devious doctors, unlawfully clean the death scene, conceal the body and then hide it in the bush, before calling the cops after nearly an hour and lying to them that 'Maddie was missing'. Later, while fake media and the whole World victimised scapegoat Robert Murat, they carefully disposed of the body.

5) Twelve years on, in 2019, the remaining seven Tapas-bar Brits all refused to be part of a Netflix documentary.

"Who are the Tapas 7? McCanns' friends who refused to be in Madeleine McCann Netflix documentary. Much has been made of the evidence given by the so-called Tapas 7 on the night Madeleine McCann went missing - but who are they?"

www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/who-tapas-7-...nns-friends-14135573

"MADELEINE CASE - ROBERT MURAT WAITS 10-YEARS FOR TVI "PEADOPHILE" COMPENSATION"

algarvedailynews.com/news/cases/madelein...dophile-compensation
 
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#234542
Wyot

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
Gosh.

Honey says they did call the cops quickly and WT that they did not. I haven't ever "studied" the case or reports. It is just when I read the different speculation I don't think it makes any psychological sense.

If someone could just explain to me in simple terms why - if The McCanns were involved and aware she is dead - so many years later they continue to draw as much attention to her as possible? Just in a few lines?

Forget sniffer dogs or favourite toys - just this?
 
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#234545
Green Man

Re:MWT and This Morning (Madeleine McCann) 2 Years ago  
The McCann's are Freemasons and this might explain how Freemasons stick together.

pluto.tv/en/on-demand/movies/a-world-rul...y-evil-2014-1-1-ptv1
 
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