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TOPIC: a GM prediction?
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Re:a GM prediction? 1 Year, 10 Months ago
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Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Oh, wake up Wyot.
They want to control you everyway possible.
Do you have an example (just one so we can focus and not a video clip - your views and words please GM!) of where the UK Government, with the intent of causing me Wyot harm, is going about this by controlling me?
CBCD, pricing you out for new cars, taxing you to Kingdom Come for going to an inner city even just going to the hospital.
But there is no intentionto harm me GM.
The outcome of some of this may inconvenience, annoy, benefit, please or help me - if I lived in an inner city it would be beneficial to my health if vehicle numbers were controlled, for example.
What can't be said is the purpose is to harm me.
Yes taxation and public policy can curb and encourage or control my potential range of behaviours. It has ever been thus since the dawn of civilization. It is the price we pay for collective living, economic and social reviprocation and relative security.
It can feel personal, but it isn't. The State is largely indifferent to us as people in our own right; and we live in a blessedly free society.
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Re:a GM prediction? 1 Year, 10 Months ago
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Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Oh, wake up Wyot.
They want to control you everyway possible.
Do you have an example (just one so we can focus and not a video clip - your views and words please GM!) of where the UK Government, with the intent of causing me Wyot harm, is going about this by controlling me?
CBCD, pricing you out for new cars, taxing you to Kingdom Come for going to an inner city even just going to the hospital.
But there is no intentionto harm me GM.
The outcome of some of this may inconvenience, annoy, benefit, please or help me - if I lived in an inner city it would be beneficial to my health if vehicle numbers were controlled, for example.
What can't be said is the purpose is to harm me.
Yes taxation and public policy can curb and encourage or control my potential range of behaviours. It has ever been thus since the dawn of civilization. It is the price we pay for collective living, economic and social reviprocation and relative security.
It can feel personal, but it isn't. The State is largely indifferent to us as people in our own right; and we live in a blessedly free society.
Oh Wyot, as much as I love our bro-love and no doubt I take aI take a bullet for you. Vehicles are much cleaner than they were when we were kids. Remember the filthy Four Star at the petrol pumps? My dear pal Tubs used to get pulled over in Wales for polluting the roads. Buying officers pints worked wonders for him, all fines were writting off!
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Re:a GM prediction? 1 Year, 10 Months ago
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Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
Oh Wyot, as much as I love our bro-love and no doubt I take aI take a bullet for you. Vehicles are much cleaner than they were when we were kids. Remember the filthy Four Star at the petrol pumps? My dear pal Tubs used to get pulled over in Wales for polluting the roads. Buying officers pints worked wonders for him, all fines were writting off!
My dearest GM I trust in the strength of our bromance to continue this thread! And I confirm that I would take a (rubber) bullet for you
First, to focus on the one example from a thousand I could have chosen is to avoid my point. My point has nothingwhatsoever to do with the relative "dirtiness" of vehicles over the course of history.
Second, even if my point was to do with the above - and vehicles now are much cleaner than when we were kids, which I will take your word that they are - they are still not clean: they pollute.
There will be health beneficiaries of state action to control motoring. Which is just an example to illustrate that the idea that the state sets out with the intent to harm everyone is not true. And not to subject in itself I have any interest in pursuing.
So my particular example illustrating the point I made remains unaddressed! As well as the point.
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Re:a GM prediction? 1 Year, 10 Months ago
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Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Oh Wyot, as much as I love our bro-love and no doubt I take aI take a bullet for you. Vehicles are much cleaner than they were when we were kids. Remember the filthy Four Star at the petrol pumps? My dear pal Tubs used to get pulled over in Wales for polluting the roads. Buying officers pints worked wonders for him, all fines were writting off!
My dearest GM I trust in the strength of our bromance to continue this thread! And I confirm that I would take a (rubber) bullet for you
First, to focus on the one example from a thousand I could have chosen is to avoid my point. My point has nothingwhatsoever to do with the relative "dirtiness" of vehicles over the course of history.
Second, even if my point was to do with the above - and vehicles now are much cleaner than when we were kids, which I will take your word that they are - they are still not clean: they pollute.
There will be health beneficiaries of state action to control motoring. Which is just an example to illustrate that the idea that the state sets out with the intent to harm everyone is not true. And not to subject in itself I have any interest in pursuing.
So my particular example illustrating the point I made remains unaddressed! As well as the point.
My final point. We all going to die one day!
Gym bunnies do look like great. I will never go to one. However how many gym goers have undiagnosed health conditions that could be fatal. A kid, from my daughter's school died from a heart attack he was 14, he had a heart of an 80 year old.
I remember when Jim Fixx died he was a marathon man. Bill Hicks made a famous joke, Bill Hicks died from cancer, he was in his early 30's. His famous line about life was "It's Just a Ride."
Steve Stanks died this year after doing the London Marathon.
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Re:a GM prediction? 1 Year, 10 Months ago
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Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
[quote] Green Man wrote:
[quote] Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Wyot wrote:
Oh Wyot, as much as I love our bro-love and no doubt I take aI take a bullet for you. Vehicles are much cleaner than they were when we were kids. Remember the filthy Four Star at the petrol pumps? My dear pal Tubs used to get pulled over in Wales for polluting the roads. Buying officers pints worked wonders for him, all fines were writting off!
My dearest GM I trust in the strength of our bromance to continue this thread! And I confirm that I would take a (rubber) bullet for you
First, to focus on the one example from a thousand I could have chosen is to avoid my point. My point has nothingwhatsoever to do with the relative "dirtiness" of vehicles over the course of history.
Second, even if my point was to do with the above - and vehicles now are much cleaner than when we were kids, which I will take your word that they are - they are still not clean: they pollute.
There will be health beneficiaries of state action to control motoring. Which is just an example to illustrate that the idea that the state sets out with the intent to harm everyone is not true. And not to subject in itself I have any interest in pursuing.
So my particular example illustrating the point I made remains unaddressed! As well as the point.
My final point. We all going to die one day!
Gym bunnies do look like great. I will never go to one. However how many gym goers have undiagnosed health conditions that could be fatal. A kid, from my daughter's school died from a heart attack he was 14, he had a heart of an 80 year old.
I remember when Jim Fixx died he was a marathon man. Bill Hicks made a famous joke, Bill Hicks died from cancer, he was in his early 30's. His famous line about life was "It's Just a Ride."
Steve Stanks died this year after doing the London Marathon.
I give up.... 
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