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TOPIC: Post Office and Guilty pleas
#236499
Wyot

Post Office and Guilty pleas 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
35 of the 39 successful appellants in the "Post Office scandal" pleaded guilty to try and avoid jail sentences when we now know they were innocent because the IT system was faulty.

evidencebasedjustice.exeter.ac.uk/false-...post-office-scandal/

There is enormous pressure on people to plead guilty in return for concessions, and the whole legal profession knows that if a significant percentage of the innocent do not plead guilty the system would grind to a halt.

Another aspect of our justice system that requires urgent reform. People should not have to sacrifice their good name to try and avoid prison. They (we) are entitled to a fair trial without being put under such monstrous pressure.
 
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#236500
Green Man

Re:Post Office and Guilty pleas 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
Again why people want to live and come to the UK is a mystery to me.

I am counting down the years so I can retire and move abroad.
 
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#236508
hedda

Re:Post Office and Guilty pleas 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
Wyot wrote:
35 of the 39 successful appellants in the "Post Office scandal" pleaded guilty to try and avoid jail sentences when we now know they were innocent because the IT system was faulty.

evidencebasedjustice.exeter.ac.uk/false-...post-office-scandal/

There is enormous pressure on people to plead guilty in return for concessions, and the whole legal profession knows that if a significant percentage of the innocent do not plead guilty the system would grind to a halt.

Another aspect of our justice system that requires urgent reform. People should not have to sacrifice their good name to try and avoid prison. They (we) are entitled to a fair trial without being put under such monstrous pressure.


the sentence should be the same whether you plead innocent or guilty instead of the pressure to plead guilty for a reduced sentence.

Only in exceptional circumstances should it matter.
 
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#236510
Re:Post Office and Guilty pleas 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
It is extraordinary that JUSTICE in the UK (and many places elsewhere) is partly based on making it easier and cheaper for the courts and police and NOT on the truth.
 
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#236543
Wyot

Re:Post Office and Guilty pleas 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
Equally extraordinary that very few people are exercised about this and other erosions of fundamental democratic and constitutional freedoms; built on centuries of struggle. Whatever people are concerned about these days, it is certainly not this sort of thing.

What we hand back to the Government we are unlikely to see returned.
 
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