Dear "Conservatives"

What has happened to the "trickle down" effect and reliance on charity? We are now headed for the highest taxes in our lifetime.

If you believe in stepping in and "saving" the poor (including the undeserving kind) from beleaguered health services by direct taxation rather than charging for use or health insurance, what distinguishes you from a socialist Labour party?

What, in short, is the point of you?

Rishi, is only following orders from the Rothschilds.

Green Man wrote:
Rishi, is only following orders from the Rothschilds.

Why would the Rothschilds want a high tax UK GM?

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Rishi, is only following orders from the Rothschilds.

Why would the Rothschilds want a high tax UK GM?

The reason you wear booty shorts to cover up your nether regions and giblets and nothing more.

The giblets are the Rockefellers.

www.donaldwatkins.com/post/the-rothschil...e-than-two-centuries

What do you think is going to pay for the war in Ukraine, massive nhs waiting lists and HS2 and other rail infrastructure? Trickle-down economics doesn't work because of greed. The super rich just buy up all the houses pushing up the prices for everyone else, or hide their money in off-shore accounts. Would I work harder if I didn't pay as much tax, no it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I already work too much.

robbiex wrote:
What do you think is going to pay for the war in Ukraine, massive nhs waiting lists and HS2 and other rail infrastructure? Trickle-down economics doesn't work because of greed. The super rich just buy up all the houses pushing up the prices for everyone else, or hide their money in off-shore accounts. Would I work harder if I didn't pay as much tax, no it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I already work too much.

I am not a Conservative Robbie; my point is that neither are they, economically or socially. If they were the former taxes would be coming down, and if the latter they would do something serious about immigration, rather than just talk nastily about it.

robbiex wrote:
What do you think is going to pay for the war in Ukraine, massive nhs waiting lists and HS2 and other rail infrastructure? Trickle-down economics doesn't work because of greed. The super rich just buy up all the houses pushing up the prices for everyone else, or hide their money in off-shore accounts. Would I work harder if I didn't pay as much tax, no it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I already work too much.

Ditto.

There is also fancy vanity projects also going on paid by council tax. I haven't seen a copper for months, apart from when I was burgled.

Wyot wrote:
robbiex wrote:
What do you think is going to pay for the war in Ukraine, massive nhs waiting lists and HS2 and other rail infrastructure? Trickle-down economics doesn't work because of greed. The super rich just buy up all the houses pushing up the prices for everyone else, or hide their money in off-shore accounts. Would I work harder if I didn't pay as much tax, no it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I already work too much.

I am not a Conservative Robbie; my point is that neither are they, economically or socially. If they were the former taxes would be coming down, and if the latter they would do something serious about immigration, rather than just talk nastily about it.

There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

robbiex wrote:
Wyot wrote:
robbiex wrote:
What do you think is going to pay for the war in Ukraine, massive nhs waiting lists and HS2 and other rail infrastructure? Trickle-down economics doesn't work because of greed. The super rich just buy up all the houses pushing up the prices for everyone else, or hide their money in off-shore accounts. Would I work harder if I didn't pay as much tax, no it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. I already work too much.

I am not a Conservative Robbie; my point is that neither are they, economically or socially. If they were the former taxes would be coming down, and if the latter they would do something serious about immigration, rather than just talk nastily about it.

There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

When I did my time for so-called tax evasion. (Never hire an accountant)

I asked for solitary confinement. I was granted it. My second solicitor pulled some strings and oddly enough the Governor knew my Father. He went drinking in the pub in the same pub.

I couldn't be dealing with gobby and toothless morons and thinking people had something to prove. If they were smart they wouldn't of been caught.

I just wanted to do my time and be out.

robbiex wrote:
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There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences.

I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible.

On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets.

As for white collar crime...

Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever.

Wyot wrote:
[quote]robbiex wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
robbiex wrote:


There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences.

I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible.

On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets.

As for white collar crime...

Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever.

And you asked me why I don't believe in God.

I think tax is the biggest crime there, we never asked for it nor do we consent to have our hard earned taken away cocaine fuelled twits in suits.

Wyot wrote:
[quote]robbiex wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
robbiex wrote:


There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences.

I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible.

On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets.

As for white collar crime...

Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever.

my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer.

hedda wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]robbiex wrote:
Wyot wrote:
robbiex wrote:


There are other things about conservatives than low taxes, such as being tough on crime, and the belief, despite overwhelming evidence that longer prison sentences act as a deterrent to serious crime. Does it work, no, but that isn't important, it wins votes. Labour also seems to be adopting this longer sentence nonsense. I think the best solution to cut down on offending is education. 40% of people in prison are illiterate.

Totally agree with you Robbie about education and rehabilitation rather than longer sentences.

I basically think that prisons should be vastly scaled down and used to keep detained only a small number of seriously dangerous individuals. But detained humanely and with as much dignity as possible.

On the other point, the Conservatives don't do anything about most crime. London stinks of skunk, shoplifters and burglars go about their business largely untroubled. Anti social behaviour (much of it now criminal) goes unchallenged by all and Police are nowhere to be seen. They have deserted our streets.

As for white collar crime...

Absolutely none of them are "tough on crime" whatsoever.

my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer.

Weren't the Triads the biggest in the UK? I vaguely remember seeing a lot of pirate tapes under the counters in the takeaways or films played on a TV combi.

hedda wrote:
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my friend did 18 months in Norway for a fake bank robbery (set up a dummy in a chair with a broom handle pointed at the bank opposite and phoned the manager who responded to the threat.."your associate has just fallen over and collapsed" ..any how he was allowed to work on a new enterprise in jail which he did and came out and became their biggest video importer.

Well he sounds very innovative and I am happy to learn his talents transferred successfully to a legitimate occupation!