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Watching this interesting series on bbc1 it is amazing that most of the criminals are either Eastern European, black,mixed race or Asian. Is this the benefits that immigration brings. Even the woke bbc it can't hide the fact of who is committing most of the crime in London.
It's an ugly truth the establishment hates. Its like the States. The minority groups are responsible for well over 50% of the crimes.
Diversity is our strength is a nice slogan but it does not work.
The media have no idea what to do with anti-Semitic crime done by Muslims and other groups. Or the outlet will be classed as Islamophobic and racist.
They rather sweep it under the rug.
Black on black crime goes unreported. A lot of thugs have no father in the house. When you see the news it's always the mother doing the interviews.
The media are scared and the police are also, hence why we have a two tier police system for the same reason. They want to be the good guys but end up being the enemy. Oh, the irony.
Try and see a copper after reporting a burglary. It's impossible they turn up days late or don't bother, they give you a police number though then tell you to look on Gumtree, car boot or eBay. They are fucking useless.
My brother in law and sister got done in at the Trouville Hotel in Bournemouth in October. All they got was a reference number. Still no call back nor updates from an internal investigation or a simple phone call from Dorset police.
It used to be a decent little hotel, but since it is in new hands, it's a now a shit hole and dodgy. I was a regular there every year. I went to the hotel after BIC and couldn't be bothered to drive home afterwards.
But doing a silent prayer the police will be at your door arresting you.
Police are a waste of time and energy when it comes to assist and help law abiding citizens.
Chicago was a nice city, I went there a lot in the past. Sure it had problems like all big cities but it's now a no go zone.
Vast police resources are spent searching for dead bodies (the person is dead already it doesn't matter) or spending dozens of hours looking at material on people's devices to see if they have been viewing anything dodgy, whilst at the same time ignoring burglars, shoplifters, and muggers.
The public are sold the idea that being tough on crime is the answer, but criminals don't think about been caught when they are committing the crime. No one says 4 years in prison is a walk in the park, but if it was six I wouldn't do the crime. All it does is add to the cost to the public. Thirty years ago you would get 15 years for murder, now you get thirty, but murders are on the increase. Facts don't matter, feeding the publics bloodlust is what matters to politicians.
Green Man wrote: It's an ugly truth the establishment hates. Its like the States. The minority groups are responsible for well over 50% of the crimes.
Even accepting the above figure without source GM, while the minority groups are disproportionately convicted and sentenced, this is not the same thing as being disproportinately responsible.
The criminal justice system is not an objective arbiter, blindly righting wrongs outside of social, economic and cultural influences.
You rightly emphasise this on many posts; don't forget it when it comes to minority groups...
Wyot wrote: Green Man wrote: It's an ugly truth the establishment hates. Its like the States. The minority groups are responsible for well over 50% of the crimes.
Even accepting the above figure without source GM, while the minority groups are disproportionately convicted and sentenced, this is not the same thing as being disproportinately responsible.
The criminal justice system is not an objective arbiter, blindly righting wrongs outside of social, economic and cultural influences.
You rightly emphasise this on many posts; don't forget it when it comes to minority groups...
Looked at the stats in USA, Wyot.
People are mad to think CCTV protects them, it only records the crime for FFS, makes the cops job easier. Being a victim or burglary twice does trigger PTSD and paranoia kicks in like being assaulted does.
Show me a victimless crime Wyot, I can wait. Even driving over the limit is stupid, but it does not take 2 or more officers. When my sister told Dorset police about their burglary in the hotel, the police said if they are cameras. They didn't come out to investigate.
I didn't see an officer, but I did 2 days later after my recent burglary. We live in a retarded nation that it is a criminal offence to tackle, beat up or shoot a robber but in Texas the homeowner gets praise, a medal and a reward.
My partner was a copper for many years, she is glad that she left force when she did. Even her old colleagues followed suit, they are delighted they left the thin blue line also.
Robbie, the police need to search for bodies for evidence and give relatives closure. If a relative was murdered and found, I like the body to be cremated and scattered not in shallow grave or under a hedge.
I thought ISP could tell the police everything of dodgy behaviour of the user? The police need to inspect computer or phones off nonces but it's a very long procedure.
My partner said the criminals are normally more one step further with tech, as the police tech is out of date and can't afford to get new updates with hardware etc all the time and there is extra training on top.
Again Robbie, it's rare for anyone to do their full sentences unless it's extreme then they will and even do more. I spent my jail in solitary confinement with help of a lawyer, I fired my first one. I loved it, I didn't want to do anything stupid nor deal with toothless morons who wanted to test me. I wanted to be a good boy and I did, I got out early before my lawyer found good handwriting evidence.
The reason for my jail time was due to a dodgy accountant, who wasn't one and I got the blame. Whilst he fucked off to Asia.
The public are sold the idea that being tough on crime is the answer, but criminals don't think about been caught when they are committing the crime
The weight of criminological research indicates it is the likelihood of being caught that is the biggest deterant, not the weight of punishment.
This should lead to increased Police budgets and removal of red tape. But the Government's interest in crime is political, not substantive.
The thing is there no deterrent in the UK. We are not allowed to be like characters in the films.
Robert Ginty - The Exterminator or Fred Williamson - Vigilante, can we?
If I wore a red hat, knowing my luck a bunch of liberals students, will think I can solve their socialist issues and see me as their Che or Castro. Not see me as a Guardian Angel trying to protect them from metropolis filth that live among us.
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]robbiex wrote:
The thing is there no deterrent in the UK. We are not allowed to be like characters in the films.
Robert Ginty - The Exterminator or Fred Williamson - Vigilante, can we?
Does this sort of thing lead to less crime, a less violent society? If we are not interested in outcomes what is that stuff all about? I get that it makes people feel good and gives an illusion of control....
Just like - on a national scale - the Israelis provide short-term to their citizens by hitting back like an exocet Charles Bronson in Gaza.
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
Show me a victimless crime Wyot, I can wait.
Not sure why you are asking me this one GM as I never said there was a victimless crime, or implied it.
It is precisely because of the harm it causes that it is important that Police are able to get back to trying to prevent crime rather than just reacting to some of it in proportion to political direction.
Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote: robbiex wrote:
The thing is there no deterrent in the UK. We are not allowed to be like characters in the films.
Robert Ginty - The Exterminator or Fred Williamson - Vigilante, can we?
Does this sort of thing lead to less crime, a less violent society? If we are not interested in outcomes what is that stuff all about? I get that it makes people feel good and gives an illusion of control....
Just like - on a national scale - the Israelis provide short-term to their citizens by hitting back like an exocet Charles Bronson in Gaza.
But it just makes everyone less safe longer term.
When the Guardian Angels patrolled the subways and certain hoods. Crime did go down.
If the laws changed we could be Bernie Goetz.
The police don't prevent crime they collect evidence for a court trail. Even the judge, will pass a soft sentence due to overcrowding, or he might go weak at the knees if a lady flutters her eyes in the dock.
Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote: Wyot wrote: robbiex wrote:
The thing is there no deterrent in the UK. We are not allowed to be like characters in the films.
Robert Ginty - The Exterminator or Fred Williamson - Vigilante, can we?
Does this sort of thing lead to less crime, a less violent society? If we are not interested in outcomes what is that stuff all about? I get that it makes people feel good and gives an illusion of control....
Just like - on a national scale - the Israelis provide short-term to their citizens by hitting back like an exocet Charles Bronson in Gaza.
But it just makes everyone less safe longer term.
When the Guardian Angels patrolled the subways and certain hoods. Crime did go down.
If the laws changed we could be Bernie Goetz.
The police don't prevent crime they collect evidence for a court trail. Even the judge, will pass a soft sentence due to overcrowding, or he might go weak at the knees if a lady flutters her eyes in the dock.
when I lived in NYC I loved seeing the Guardian Angels.
These days there would be a political uproar over them and they'd be on charges.
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