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TOPIC: Lucy Letby
#243762
Lucy Letby 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
The New Yorker article may well prove to be a bigger shocker than Andrew Malkinson and the Post Office scandal added together. It must be published in the UK now.
 
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Wyot

Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
We live in a world where Police and media can conspire to show footage of Cliff Richard's house being raided but are barred from reading this report on the Letby case. Open justice eh...
 
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Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
Right I've now read the New Yorker article and it's incredible - could have been written by the mighty Bob Woffinden were he still with us. Shocking that this cannot be published in the UK - I strongly suggest you buy a copy of the New Yorker and read it for yourself. Like the Post Office scandal, like the Andrew Malkinson case, like the situations I've been through over the past 24 years, this indicates that there is something seriously wrong with British Justice from top to bottom.
 
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Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
Most of all it is yet another indictment of Letby's lawyers. How on earth did they not forensically discover the information carried in this article? Bob Woffinden used to say the same to me - why didn't my lawyers in 2001 find out what he found out - and what I have since uncovered, giving solid proof that I had inadequate representation at trial? That's what Letby had. Police and CPS are very good at concealing or losing or deliberately failing to disclose vital evidence to the defence and to the court. SHOCKING.
 
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Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
JK wrote, "Police and CPS are very good at concealing or losing or deliberately failing to disclose vital evidence to the defence and to the court. SHOCKING."

Routine witness GROOMING tampering, concealing or losing or deliberately failing to disclose vital evidence to the defence and to the court are all SERIOUS CRIMINAL OFFENCES unprosecuted. While on-oath promising to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. SHOCKING but routine. Criminally self-justified by their fake 'Noble Cause' corruption.

E.G. "You can trust us, we're hard but fair cops like you're routinely brainwashed to believe by fake media psycho dramas, The Bill etc."

Meanwhile trust real truth-tellers and victims like King, Gambo, Woffinden, Webster, and Duncroft ex-Head Miss Jones who could fix bent-cops, fake media, and MWT.

Always respect true, not fake, victims. Include millions of true victims of fake cops/media, falsely making all underage kids look like Angels.

Former Duncroft headmistress Margaret Jones said some of her pupils were 'NO ANGELS' and had traded sex for cigarettes. Some were coming forward now with 'wild allegations about abuse' ONLY TO MAKE MONEY, and had only themselves to blame if they had not complained at the time.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227086...-claims-told-to.html
 
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Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
Hopefully this link to the article works...

archive.ph/AWpyz
 
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Wyot

Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Hopefully this link to the article works...

archive.ph/AWpyz


It does thanks JK. I shall read with interest...
 
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Wyot

Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
I don't understand how a jury could have found her guilty "beyond reasonable doubt" based on this article, and certainly not if her prosecution team had presented the evidence the journalist uncovered.

I think so many assumed her guilt based on her diary entries; but there are other pychological explanations for them that make as much sense as "she killed them".

Who knows? But a troubling case for sure.
 
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Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
JK's fine link to true journo Rachel Aviv in The New Yorker May 13, 2024.

Rachel Aviv joined The New Yorker as a staff writer in 2013. She has written for the magazine about a range of subjects, including medical ethics.

Summary: the failed UK Police-Prosecution system for convictions before justice, can't face the failed UK N.H.S system for profits before people.

Burkhard Schafer, a law professor at the University of Edinburgh who studies the intersection of law and science, said that it appeared as if the Letby prosecution had “learned the wrong lessons from previous miscarriages of justice.”

Schafer told me. “What is not in the police’s remit is finding a systemic problem in an organization like the National Health Service, after decades of underfunding, where you have overworked people cutting little corners with very vulnerable babies who are already in a risk category.

It is much more satisfying to say there was a bad person, there was a criminal, than to deal with the outcome of government policy.”
 
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Wyot

Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
No Name wrote:
JK's fine link to true journo Rachel Aviv in The New Yorker May 13, 2024.

Rachel Aviv joined The New Yorker as a staff writer in 2013. She has written for the magazine about a range of subjects, including medical ethics.

Summary: the failed UK Police-Prosecution system for convictions before justice, can't face the failed UK N.H.S system for profits before people.

Burkhard Schafer, a law professor at the University of Edinburgh who studies the intersection of law and science, said that it appeared as if the Letby prosecution had “learned the wrong lessons from previous miscarriages of justice.”

Schafer told me. “What is not in the police’s remit is finding a systemic problem in an organization like the National Health Service, after decades of underfunding, where you have overworked people cutting little corners with very vulnerable babies who are already in a risk category.

It is much more satisfying to say there was a bad person, there was a criminal, than to deal with the outcome of government policy.”


Yes I know I read it as can others but thanks for pasting that bit just in case our attention wavered....

Correction to my post above; I of course mean if her "defence team had presented the evidence" not prosecution.
 
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Wyot

Re:Lucy Letby 1 Year ago  
No Name wrote:


Summary: the failed UK Police-Prosecution system for convictions before justice, can't face the failed UK N.H.S system for profits before people.



This isn't a summary of the article at all. I would urge people to read it. There is absolutely nothing about NHS "profiteering" "before people" in there.

I know what the poster is referring to; but he has misunderstood the point, completely.
 
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