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#243876
I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
Biden calls it outrageous. Is he mad? The leaders of both sides are equally responsible for appalling, inexcusable, criminal behaviour. I don't think any leaders should be killed - then we would be as bad as them. But they should all be locked up.
 
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#243883
Wyot

Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
Quite agree just remove the politics from the situation and both are just murderers
. I hope they are locked up for their remainders. And they'd better hope the God they claim to believe in isn't real...
 
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#243904
Caleb

Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
One of the most sensible things Biden has said lately.

How can anyone AGREE with the ICC? I'm confidemnt the warrant won't actually be issued in Netanyahu's case. To place a democratically elected leader defending his nation alongside those who want every single person within that nation eliminated (dead) in the same boat as those terrorists is repugnant.

Keep repeating 7th October, again and again and never allow yourself to forget that. Netanyahu didn't just choose to act in this way, he had to do it.

Do you honestly think the Israeli's have deliberately set out to kill large numbers of innocent civilian men, women and children?

Just remember and don't forget, on 7th October Hamas would have happily killed all 9,840,000 Israeli's if they could have managed it. Even death wasn't good enough for Hamas after the murders, they had to degrade and abuse many of those they had just killed too. It's hard to believe such deep evil exists within the human condition.

If you have a better answer then what was it, what was the correct proportionate response then?
 
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#243911
Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
The correct response wsas like America did to Bin Laden after 9/11.
 
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#243931
Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
Watching many excuses by those who support Israel's murders in Gaza, most justify their behaviour by using the October 7th Hamas lunacy. An eye for an eye - or ten times as many. Fair enough, if that is the morality they believe in.
 
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Wyot

Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
Caleb wrote:


Just remember and don't forget, on 7th October Hamas would have happily killed all 9,840,000 Israeli's if they could have managed it. Even death wasn't good enough for Hamas after the murders, they had to degrade and abuse many of those they had just killed too. It's hard to believe such deep evil exists within the human condition.



Those criticising Israel do tend to forget that Hamas would willingly kill every single Israeli jew (and any Jews anywhere probably) if they had the capacity.

Hamas is a hideous medieval death cult. Hell of a thing to live next door to. Hamas actively wants to wipe out Israel and Israeli's, Israel wants security. There is a qualitative difference between Hamas and the Israeli nation which gets lost because of the latter's superior capacity to kill.

I just don't think they will get it by wholesale violence intended to remove Hamas. They will just create more recruits to Hamas; or whatever replaces it. They are also being stupid by alienating support by the terrible slaughter of innocents.

Israel had a choice; and they made the wrong and stupid one.
 
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#243949
Mark

Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
What's the "excuse" for Hamas murders of innocent Israeli citizens just going about their peaceful daily activities on a Saturday morning then?

Is this any different to the RAF blitzing Dresden in February 1945 killing thousands of innocent civilians in the process and the firestorms that unleased, or of course President Truman dropping two atomic bombs on Japan in August 1945 in order to force the end of WW2 as fast as possible to save more lives long term. Just like Germany, Hamas have reaped the whirlwind they created.

On the basis of this argument British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and American President Harry S.Truman are also murderers and war criminals too are they not?
 
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#243965
Wyot

Re:I cannot understand how anyone can disagree with the ICC 1 Year ago  
Mark wrote:
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Just like Germany, Hamas have reaped the whirlwind they created.

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For goodness sake as utterly loathsome as 7th Oct was there was history before it, including some *cough* behaviours on Israel's part towards the Palestinians in Gaza that would not win them the Nobel Prize for Peace...

Nothing startedon 7th October; it was part (vile, inexcusable) of a continuum of hatred and ignorance on both sides. Which should be equally condemned.

Why do the majority simply have to have a side? Everyone who takes a side is part of the fucking problem, whether running a terrorist group or murderous State or posting on social media.
 
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