I shall be very susprised if he hasn't felt that hand on his collar by the middle of this month. Perhaps he was always squeaky clean. And perhaps none of his old contacts wants to make a few grand.

What are you talking about, do you even know yourself?

He won't be arrested and you know that. David Icke levels of delusion.

You are of course free to present yourself to a police station to present any evidence you have against any individual that you think needs further investigation. I'm sure you feel quite at home in such places.

Agree with you Michael Walker.

It's just mischief making bluster and King knows it.

What the hell are you on about, JK?

I'm suspecting that Starmer's decision that police must believe a victim even if they are lying might mean that anybody who was sexually abused or approached by him years ago may now find the prospect of thousands of pounds attractive if they decide to complain to the police.

Starmer should be in the dock for promoting genocide and repeated lies.
Ghastly evil creature.

JK2006 wrote:
I'm suspecting that Starmer's decision that police must believe a victim even if they are lying might mean that anybody who was sexually abused or approached by him years ago may now find the prospect of thousands of pounds attractive if they decide to complain to the police.

You should have added this piece along with your opener in the first place.

What is interesting here is that Lloyd Russell Moyle the gay Brighton Labour MP until dissolution a few days ago has had some vague allegation made against him unexpectedly just as the election was being called and has now been forced out from being the candidate he was expecting to be. Whether this is genuinely something to answer or politcal dirty tricks is hard to tell but guilt at the point of accusation seems the order of the day.

Which rather begs the question, if Russell Moyle is the precedent then what's to stop anyone making an allegation against Starmer right now along similar lines to Russell Moyle about 'inappropriate behavior' or worse and more specific. He would surely have to step aside, at least in the meantime. This would then change the future course of this country's governance. Any politically motivated malicious (or true) allegation could be levelled at Starmer and he'd have to go. Could it really be that easy to do?

But it would be a different rule for Starmer if any such allegations surfaced wouldn't it.

Anything genuine that took Starmer out of the race would be welcome. The man doesn't deserve it. It's like he's going to win the lottery jackpot without even buying the ticket first.

Kevin wrote:
[quote]JK2006 wrote:


Anything genuine that took Starmer out of the race would be welcome. The man doesn't deserve it. It's like he's going to win the lottery jackpot without even buying the ticket first.

I'm no Starmer fan Kevin but he will deserve the win if he does so. He will have been voted in by the people of the country, after years working to lead the Labour Party.

I think the young (anyone under 50) badly want a change; and we are all about to get it.

But of course they will slowly become disillusioned when they realise nothing much will change at all.

Tbh, I thought it was quite obvious what Jonathan meant in his OP. The culture of "believe the victim at all times" which Starmer supported in his tenure as DPP fosters a societal culture whereby anyone can be accused, legitimately or otherwise - especially anyone in the public eye.

I tried to listen to a Keir Starmer speech one time and was bored half to death. I demand compensation.

tdf wrote:
I tried to listen to a Keir Starmer speech one time and was bored half to death. I demand compensation.

They worth bookmarking in to your web browser. You can see him getting barred from a pub with his thugs. Asking for a longer and stricter lockdown whilst he has a party. He made a fortune for Mclibel via legal aid,he does more flip flopping than Boris Johnson, he admits he is a WEF globalist.

If Labour get in - my taxes will be pissed away even more on the unemployed and those who have kids and can't afford them. That is not my fault nor my problem. He has done more U-turns about Net Zero than my bog has ever done in my youth. He has admitted he let the migrants carry on coming without thinking about the housing stocks, roads, GPs and hospitals and schools.

Do you own research also.

Starmer is another borish, white middle class Londoner. He won't go meet the working class and those with no class. Oxted in Surrey is a very nice part of the county; just ask Wyot!

Starmer is now criticising the Tory manifesto by saying it is like Corbyn's - I.e uncosted. This is a lie: it was fully costed and Starmer himself signed it off as a member of the shadow cabinet.

The man has no shame or principles, it seems. I really do despair of the choices we have in the UK these days. There is no class.