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#244410
The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
Well the stars of the show are Emily Bolton and Appeal - I hope people are donating large sums of money to them. Because there are not just hundreds of others but thousands - the damage has been enormous and is ongoing. It makes the Post Office scandal look trivial. But I noticed that Andrew Malkinson wasted and hated his time in prison. I found my time inside fantastic. I was able to help or comfort some of the many wrongly convicted. And even many of the correctly imprisoned. Andrew would not now be such a ruined human being if he'd thought about others instead of himself.
 
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#244415
Green Man

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
Stephen Downing was in a "Catch 22" unless he admitted his guilt.


 
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#244424
Carl

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
Easy for you to say about him being a broken man after prison. He served over 17 years for a crime he didn't commit.

You only served 3½ years for crimes you DID commit.
 
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#244426
Jo

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
That video about Stephen Downing has been uploaded by Don Hale, who is portrayed by Stephen Thompkinson in the drama "In Denial of Murder". www.imdb.com/title/tt0381272/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_31_act I saw it a few years ago (it used to be on YouTube) and it was quite interesting. Don Hale was portrayed as naive, but his campaigning had helped to get Downing freed on a technicality. I seem to remember Don Hale coming to the fore at the time of the Savile/"VIP" abuse allegations, and I had the impression he wasn't reliable.

Sir Edward Heath: Five UK police forces investigating child sex abuse claims involving former PM

A British journalist is one of those who has made further extraordinary claims against Sir Edward.

Journalist Don Hale said 30 years ago he was handed a dossier on an alleged Westminster paedophile ring, and shortly after his office was raided by police.

Mr Hale said among the allegations against Sir Edward concerned the whereabouts of boys from care homes who went yachting with the politician.

"He was basically recruiting boys from Jersey to go on adventure sailing trips with him at weekends on his boat Morning Cloud and there was all sorts of allegations against him in terms of what may have happened to these boys taken from care homes in Jersey," he said.

"There were claims that some of these boys didn't come back."

Reading this, I wonder if he makes stuff up:

EXCLUSIVE: Second paedophile dossier cover-up after police raid

Moor Larkin on Don Hale:

In truth Don Hale being behind this deceit came as no surprise since all of this ghost-hunting had really got started because I had happened across the book authored by Don Hale, in which Don himself had explained that Terry had died in 2010. Quite how Don explains the interviews he’s been having with Terry since then, I have no idea. However it does go some way to expose the state British journalism is in, in the 21st Century. It turns out that Don Hale is the new David Icke. He is a thwarted pro-footballer… And just like David Icke, Don began his journalist career with the BBC after injury cut short his soccer days!! Incredible coincidences!

jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/2015/04/a-...aw-ghost-writer.html
 
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#244430
Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
No I did not commit the crimes for which I was wrongly convicted and for which my appeal, like Malkinson's, may well confirm. I assume you're read Bob Woffinden's Nicholas Cases where the chapter on my case is next to Malkinson's in Bob's consideration of the ten worst miscarriages of justice in 30 years.
 
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#244432
Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
There have indeed been several PROVEN cases over past years and I can assure you many thousands that have NOT been overturned as the victims have no money or determination. Most, faced by "the system", simply give up. But I found the film fascinating. Note the two "witnesses" - now both dead - found to have had amazing, co-incidental charges against them dropped when they agreeed to assist police by giving false witness. A good Private Investigator or, in Malkinson's case, lawyer can often get stuff on these villains. And Judges are starting to notice, when witnesses suddely die or go senile or whatever, that the lack of evidence tends to prove the defendant's case.
But these facts MUST be discovered before trials. It is so hard (and expensive) to overturn a wrongful conviction; most give up, accept their fates - there are only so many cases Appeal can take on. And THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO. The CCRC should do this. Or police, before trials. Or even sometimes Prosecution Lawyers (check out Liam Allen's case).
 
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#244436
robbiex

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
This case was shocking. Malkinson was nicked because he had been stopped for riding pillion on a motorbike and the copper thought he looked like the photo-fit. He looked nothing like the photo-fit. Then "trusted" eyewitnesses had claimed to witness seeing Malkinson at the scene of the crime. They were found to be serial false evidence providers and looking to do a plea bargain. Malkinson's only way out of jail was to talk through the events that led to him doing the rape, even though he didn't do it.

I'm amazed that Andrew isn't angry with the false accuser who picked him out at the identity parade. That act destroyed his life, he should be furious. The man should be getting millions in compensation, but yet he has zippence. The subject of Baby reindeer is wanting £122 million, Andrew's case is 100 times worse than that. He deserves millions. I think we should crowd fund for compensation for him.
 
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#244445
Green Man

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
robbiex wrote:
This case was shocking. Malkinson was nicked because he had been stopped for riding pillion on a motorbike and the copper thought he looked like the photo-fit. He looked nothing like the photo-fit. Then "trusted" eyewitnesses had claimed to witness seeing Malkinson at the scene of the crime. They were found to be serial false evidence providers and looking to do a plea bargain. Malkinson's only way out of jail was to talk through the events that led to him doing the rape, even though he didn't do it.

I'm amazed that Andrew isn't angry with the false accuser who picked him out at the identity parade. That act destroyed his life, he should be furious. The man should be getting millions in compensation, but yet he has zippence. The subject of Baby reindeer is wanting £122 million, Andrew's case is 100 times worse than that. He deserves millions. I think we should crowd fund for compensation for him.


Money will help but it solve everything. Sadly, the officers have no doubt retired or found new jobs and kept their pensions.

I did read an article that Andrew addicted to H, so now doubt he was known to the police for petty crimes. (if there is such a thing)

The photo fit is a joke, he was probably set up by officers that knew Andrew and wanted him out the area. Probably why the DNA samples were awful and lost.
 
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#244461
Pete W

Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Well the stars of the show are Emily Bolton and Appeal - I hope people are donating large sums of money to them. Because there are not just hundreds of others but thousands - the damage has been enormous and is ongoing. It makes the Post Office scandal look trivial. But I noticed that Andrew Malkinson wasted and hated his time in prison. I found my time inside fantastic. I was able to help or comfort some of the many wrongly convicted. And even many of the correctly imprisoned. Andrew would not now be such a ruined human being if he'd thought about others instead of himself.


You found your time inside fantastic - perhaps you could have asked them if you could serve the whole 7 years you had handed down by the judge then if it was so bloody marvellous.
 
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#244464
Re:The Wrong Man 1 Year ago  
Three and a half years was quite enough, thank you - but those who think in simplitic terms must, quite rightly, wonder why I didn't want to spend the rest of my life there. I'm a bit unusual in that simplistic solutions don't hit the spot. My fantastic life continues with incredible variety and will until I pass away.
 
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