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TOPIC: I've decided I will vote
#245146
I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
LibDem in my constituency - they don't stand a chance but their hearts are in the right place.
 
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#245148
Al Gershwin

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Complaining, and refusing to vote (like many here) is a complete cop-out. Many countries don't permit voting and many people here died, to get the right. Democracy may not work - but it's the best option we have.
 
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#245149
Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
No it's not - there are many better. Benign autocracy is good. Constitutional monarchy can work, depending on the monarch. The Trump decision in the Supreme Court is the ultimate result of democracy where the wrong person is elected and allowed to be dictator.
 
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#245153
Wyot

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Complaining, and refusing to vote (like many here) is a complete cop-out. Many countries don't permit voting and many people here died, to get the right. Democracy may not work - but it's the best option we have.

Democracy is the best option we have to get some level of democracy, of course Barney. But that is all your post is saying. You think it is saying far more self evident deep things than this; but it is not.
 
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#245166
Hedda

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
The First past post system is an abomination with minority governments elected.

Australia got it right with British immigrant founders endeavouring to create a political system that would produce majority governments.
 
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#245170
Wyot

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Hedda wrote:
The First past post system is an abomination with minority governments elected.

Australia got it right with British immigrant founders endeavouring to create a political system that would produce majority governments.


I've never been convinced by proportional representation either. If the Government formed can't fully implement the policies people voted for, what exactly are people voting for? But at a push I would probably take it over first past the post....
 
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#245178
Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I think the obvious thing is - people assessed by others who know nothing about the person and nothing about the abilities required to do the job are not often suitable.
 
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#245181
PaulB

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I voted for my local Tory candidate and he is tipped to keep his seat.
 
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#245183
Al Gershwin

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Just voted in Surrey (almost deserted polling station) where all 11 seats are held by the Conservatives, and have been for decades.

Local media suggests that about 6 seats will probably change hands - mainly to Liberal Democrats candidates. Changing times, in a historic blue county!
 
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#245212
Al Gershwin

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
In this election, new boundaries increased the number of seats to 13 - from 11; all of the 11 were held by Conservative MP's.

Now, it transpires - only 5 Surrey seats are held by Conservatives. LibDems make up most of the other 8. Labour still remain seatless.
 
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#245222
Wyot

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:


Now, it transpires - only 5 Surrey seats are held by Conservatives. LibDems make up most of the other 8. Labour still remain seatless.


Finally my county is not defined by being bloody Tory!

LibDems I like. And If I had bothered voting would have voted for them as the only party who made a manifesto point of stopping greedy corporations pumping shit in our rivers - wankers.
 
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#245223
Green Man

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
PaulB wrote:
I voted for my local Tory candidate and he is tipped to keep his seat.

Lib Dem won in my consultancy the first in decades or maybe for the first time. They were the only party to campaign hard. However,the new MP will be invisible like the previous one. Not forgetting just as useless and corrupt.

Do really need MPs? Most of them get sacked, step down and deflect to other parties.
 
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#245234
Al Gershwin

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Wyot wrote:
the only party who made a manifesto point of stopping greedy corporations pumping shit in our rivers


Not quite! Labour's included fines, bonus blocks, criminal charges etc.


labour.org.uk/change/make-britain-a-clean-energy-superpower/
 
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#245240
Sally Nice

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Without MP's - how would you envisage the government being run?
 
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#245242
Wyot

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Al Gershwin wrote:
Wyot wrote:
the only party who made a manifesto point of stopping greedy corporations pumping shit in our rivers


Not quite! Labour's included fines, bonus blocks, criminal charges etc.


labour.org.uk/change/make-britain-a-clean-energy-superpower/


This is reacting not preventing...
 
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#245245
Green Man

Re:I've decided I will vote 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Sally Nice wrote:
Without MP's - how would you envisage the government being run?

I leave the government alone, so they can live me alone.
 
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