Or does it!?

When the majority want to dispose of an incompetent and ineffectual government - it does.

Conservative failures - on the economy, cost of living, covid, immigration etc. - just made it inevitable.

Glad to have been a small (very) part of the decision to oust mediocrities who fully deserve their low status in history.

Reform gets more votes than Libs but still only win 5 seats? We need to have the American voting system. Minus the computer software and hardware.

Labour will have a tough down winning the Asians over IMHO. When I was the the West Midlands during the week, I saw a lot of British Asian's mostly Sihks canvassing for Reform.

Green Man wrote:
Reform gets more votes than Libs but still only win 5 seats?



Much as I loathe reform I do agree this is a travesty of "democracy".

It will be interesting to see how much ground Reform gain in the next 5 years from ex Tory and newly disaffected working class Labour voters.

Will we move like European neighbours to the far right or will Starmer maintain a "liberal" centre ground.

I think his main challenge will be how to talk to the concerns millions have about immigration and services without getting tied up in knots worrying about offending any minority groups.

If he doesn't find a way the far right will grow and grow...

Far right means nothing now. It's a term by the media and socialists to gaslight people and label those who they disagree with.

Throwing milkshakes and hurling insults is all they can do. If it's ANTIFA then they will break your face with bike locks. Look up Eric Clanton.

Green Man wrote:
Far right means nothing now. It's a term by the media and socialists to gaslight people and label those who they disagree with.



A bit like - as you have just done - labelling as "socialists" those who think that Reform is a nationalist far right group, you mean?

Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Far right means nothing now. It's a term by the media and socialists to gaslight people and label those who they disagree with.



A bit like - as you have just done - labelling as "socialists" those who think that Reform is a nationalist far right group, you mean?

Can't beat them then join them.