Of course Blair is going to have influence and power over Starmer.

When the next Black Swan event happens, we will all be under another lockdown and have I.D cards. It will be the next new normal.

ID. cards will be exempt those who come over illegally with no passport or other forms of I.D.

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/sir-kei...street-b1169197.html

This is simple.


Blair recommended ID cards.


Starmer didn't agree. Over and out!

ID cards might actually help people to vote who are disinfranchised by not having a driving licence or passport or internet connection to faff around finding an alternative. Can't believe that photographic ID has been made compulsory for voting, especially when voting without it has been possible for decades and when turnout seems to get lower every year.

Jo wrote:
ID cards might actually help people to vote who are disinfranchised by not having a driving licence or passport or internet connection to faff around finding an alternative. Can't believe that photographic ID has been made compulsory for voting, especially when voting without it has been possible for decades and when turnout seems to get lower every year.

ID cards can be positive in all sorts if ways, I agree, including protecting borders! I really don't understand the fuss about them. We are identifiable in other ways already, if a malicious state wished to snoop on us all!

Al Gershwin wrote:
This is simple.


Blair recommended ID cards.


Starmer didn't agree. Over and out!

Wait until the next plandemic and Black Swan Event.

Jo wrote:
ID cards might actually help people to vote who are disinfranchised by not having a driving licence or passport or internet connection to faff around finding an alternative. Can't believe that photographic ID has been made compulsory for voting, especially when voting without it has been possible for decades and when turnout seems to get lower every year.


Seems that Labour want aim at younger people. Not voting should be a human right also; I can see the laws changing.

There was such a hullabaloo in Oz when the government wanted an ID card so they introduced a Medicare card for everyone.. our NHS..which has become a defacto ID card.

Hedda wrote:
There was such a hullabaloo in Oz when the government wanted an ID card so they introduced a Medicare card for everyone.. our NHS..which has become a defacto ID card.

Australia is a totalitarianism place. Look back at your lockdown and vaccine mandates. Sun is nature's medicine but there was helicopters patrolling the beaches.

Wyot wrote:
Jo wrote:
ID cards might actually help people to vote who are disinfranchised by not having a driving licence or passport or internet connection to faff around finding an alternative. Can't believe that photographic ID has been made compulsory for voting, especially when voting without it has been possible for decades and when turnout seems to get lower every year.

ID cards can be positive in all sorts if ways, I agree, including protecting borders! I really don't understand the fuss about them. We are identifiable in other ways already, if a malicious state wished to snoop on us all!

Protecting the borders seems a very far- right thing to me Wyot, did you vote Reform or UKIP.

Hedda, will call you a RIGHT WING LOON.

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Wyot wrote:
[quote]Jo wrote:


Protecting the borders seems a very far- right thing to me Wyot, did you vote Reform or UKIP.

Hedda, will call you a RIGHT WING LOON.

Certainly not GM!

Protecting borders is not a very far right thing to do though. Pretending go be able to send failed asylum seekers to an unsafe country because you have under funded the border force and run it incompetently, is far right rhetoric, at the least.

Goodness knows what Reform is proposing to do once they are not obliged to think about human rights anymore...Club them to death like seals on the Dover shore?