Like a lot of people, I felt sick reading about the John Hunt family being slaughtered.

I can't even imagine what John, is feeling. I told my partner this evening, to hand in my crossbows and bolts, hunting knives and even my firearms to the local police station tomorrow morning. I am fully licenced to own guns and always have been.
I have 2 daughters also, who are my world. When growing up I was the only male sibling in the house.

I am fed up with violence and aggression in today's society, it has gotten worse since 2020.

When I go to car boots or dodgy market stalls, I do see a lot of so-called defunct or unpinned guns on militia stands. When you point out that the guns are not broken etc. The stallholders quickly pack away after getting angry and verbally aggressive.

I have never understood why people can't accept a relationship breakdown, especially if they are not married.

Sure, it hurts when you are dumped but you get over it after a few weeks and move on. Then you try to get on the pull in the club if you are lucky.

Social media has made dating a lot easier, in my generation you had to chat up and make an effort. You had to accept rejection or a few "Fuck Offs". A lot of women I did try chat up, went to powder their noses and never came back.

Dreadful and boring case. Yet another inadequate man and his bruised ego. It has been going on since time immemorial.

I do wish the media would not name such people, or other pathetic terrorist losers. I am sure it would be less likely to happen if they didn't know they would be a "star" for a few days...

Handing in the arms of a licensed and responsible owner isn't going to fix the problems such items cause.

It's a terrible thing to have happened. When the news broke, I did wonder if the killer had been involved with one of the daughters, as they were around the same age.

Not sure if dating apps/social media are relevant in this case (?), but I've heard that dating apps/sites attract a good number of weirdos. They must bypass the gut instinct and "vibes" you'd get when meeting someone face-to-face that would tell you to walk away.

Good on you, GM, for giving up your arms. Is it legal for working guns to be sold at car boot sales and market stalls? Maybe the police should be told about that.

From the BBC rolling coverage. Suspect's brother serving life for murder. Unbelievable.

House being searched is linked to suspect's brother

We had heard about further searches taking place at a house in Rendlesham Road, Enfield, in north London.

According to PA Media the house is linked to Kyle Clifford's brother, Bradley Clifford, who was jailed for life with a minimum term of 23 years for murder in 2018.

Al Gershwin wrote:
Handing in the arms of a licensed and responsible owner isn't going to fix the problems such items cause.

Well if I am broken in to again and they stolen and up in the wrong hands. They could be used. Even though the murders happened is suburban and posh area of Herts, a county I know quite well. Rural crime is thriving and the police can't tackle it.

Jo wrote:
It's a terrible thing to have happened. When the news broke, I did wonder if the killer had been involved with one of the daughters, as they were around the same age.

Not sure if dating apps/social media are relevant in this case (?), but I've heard that dating apps/sites attract a good number of weirdos. They must bypass the gut instinct and "vibes" you'd get when meeting someone face-to-face that would tell you to walk away.

Good on you, GM, for giving up your arms. Is it legal for working guns to be sold at car boot sales and market stalls? Maybe the police should be told about that.

The police can't attend every car boot but the organisers should have a trained eye. A lot of markets do have police or wardens. There a lot of dodgy markets that spring up randomly. It's not legal Jo, I have even witnessed bump stocks being sold. (post 2019 when they were prohibited) and real rounds not empty shells.

The law needs to change IMHO. Possessing etc. From the Gov website.
Firearm or ammunition without firearm certificate. 6 months or a fine of £200; or both. in any other case, 3 years or a fine or both.

The fine is peanuts.

Green Man wrote:


Social media has made dating a lot easier, in my generation you had to chat up and make an effort. You had to accept rejection or a few "Fuck Offs". A lot of women I did try chat up, went to powder their noses and never came back. [/quote]

I don't want to go off topic, but social media hasn't made it easier to date. Dating sites are 80% of women going after 20% of the men. Also #Metoo has made the relationships between men and women difficult. Men are often viewed in terms of toxic maculinity Also I don't think pubs have ever been a good place for dating. People go to pubs on their friends. You can't just interject a group of friends to ask someone for date. Nightclubs maybe for the young are more socially acceptable for approaching strangers.

robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:


Social media has made dating a lot easier, in my generation you had to chat up and make an effort. You had to accept rejection or a few "Fuck Offs". A lot of women I did try chat up, went to powder their noses and never came back.

I don't want to go off topic, but social media hasn't made it easier to date. Dating sites are 80% of women going after 20% of the men. Also #Metoo has made the relationships between men and women difficult. Men are often viewed in terms of toxic maculinity Also I don't think pubs have ever been a good place for dating. People go to pubs on their friends. You can't just interject a group of friends to ask someone for date. Nightclubs maybe for the young are more socially acceptable for approaching strangers.[/quote]

I know a hotel manager in Dorset who boasts about DM's on his phone, there were hundreds. He has numerous women on the go. My partner asked him how he got all those numbers and women? The response was bluntly put Facebook and Badoo.

I don't know many single people, every one I know is settled. Unless they are widowed.

Green Man wrote:
robbiex wrote:
Green Man wrote:


Social media has made dating a lot easier, in my generation you had to chat up and make an effort. You had to accept rejection or a few "Fuck Offs". A lot of women I did try chat up, went to powder their noses and never came back.

I don't want to go off topic, but social media hasn't made it easier to date. Dating sites are 80% of women going after 20% of the men. Also #Metoo has made the relationships between men and women difficult. Men are often viewed in terms of toxic maculinity Also I don't think pubs have ever been a good place for dating. People go to pubs on their friends. You can't just interject a group of friends to ask someone for date. Nightclubs maybe for the young are more socially acceptable for approaching strangers.

I know a hotel manager in Dorset who boasts about DM's on his phone, there were hundreds. He has numerous women on the go. My partner asked him how he got all those numbers and women? The response was bluntly put Facebook and Badoo.

I don't know many single people, every one I know is settled. Unless they are widowed.[/quote]

It may just be a boast or he may be in the top 20% with regards to looks, money, and power. Also having numbers doesn't mean anything. You say that people you know are settled, but they have probably been settled for years before #metoo. All social media means that that women have more choice in selecting partners, they're not restricted to the local people.

Green Man wrote:
I know a hotel manager in Dorset who boasts about DM's on his phone, there were hundreds. He has numerous women on the go. My partner asked him how he got all those numbers and women? The response was bluntly put Facebook and Badoo.

I don't know many single people, every one I know is settled. Unless they are widowed.
Wonder how many of the women are real and how many are scammers. In this video, it's said that around 30% of the people on Match.com were - maybe still are - estimated to be scammers.

I have no idea Jo to be honest, it's not my business nor did I really care. I was more interested in him paying me.

It's funny on Facebook/X that big boob women(scammers) want to be friends and show sexual interest to random men, in hope for money.


I am glad, that I am not on the dating scene.

If a woman who is much younger, better looking, or taller than you gives you a lot of attention, that is a big red flag.

I've seen men at singles events chatting up women who are a foot taller and 10-15 years younger, unless you are very rich or powerful this is only going to end in dissapointment.

robbiex wrote:
If a woman who is much younger, better looking, or taller than you gives you a lot of attention, that is a big red flag.

I've seen men at singles events chatting up women who are a foot taller and 10-15 years younger, unless you are very rich or powerful this is only going to end in dissapointment.

What do you mean by rich and powerful?

Sounds like the men you see are punching up. If I had a dream girl she would be from Dixie with a thick Southern drawl, pig tails and owns a trailer.