So the police arrested a lone woman doing a silent prayer, for the the unborn about to be killed. People have the right have the right to be Pro-choice.

Yet, people can yell "Allahu Akbar" at the top of their voice and the police turn a blind eye. Allahu Akbar is a prayer also just like the Shemoneh Esrei prayer. I do miss the sound of the Shofar when I was living in NYC. Even the Jews would cover their ears if they heard it walking past, some rolled their eyes and the odd "Oh vey" would come out.

The fine, came from the taxpayers not from the police officer's wage packets or pension pots.

Labour can do what they like because we don't have the The First Amendment.

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To make so called silent prayer a criminal act is outrageous in itself. I dont like to dilute the outrage with links to alleged differential policing though.

If this goes through we should all march on Downing Street, nursing silent thoughts about revolution...

We have a First Ammendment equivalent - Article 10 of the 1998 Human Rights Act.

I am in the middle on this.
Our thoughts should remain our own, but I do not want to step over Muslim people "aggressively" kneeling to pray in the middle of a busy pavement, as occasionally happens, and equally, a display of prayer intended to intimidate someone going into an abortion clinic when it is perfectly legal is not on either.

Al Gershwin wrote:
We have a First Ammendment equivalent - Article 10 of the 1998 Human Rights Act.

Yeah an 'Act'.

Honey wrote:


a display of prayer intended to intimidate someone going into an abortion clinic when it is perfectly legal is not on either.

Perhaps so - but a criminal act?!

Yes, an Act - which changed our Constitution....

Al Gershwin wrote:
Yes, an Act - which changed our Constitution....

Yeah, on paper.

It's nothing like in America.

Honey wrote:
I am in the middle on this.
Our thoughts should remain our own, but I do not want to step over Muslim people "aggressively" kneeling to pray in the middle of a busy pavement, as occasionally happens, and equally, a display of prayer intended to intimidate someone going into an abortion clinic when it is perfectly legal is not on either.

I use to know that think all abortion is murder no matter what.

Some said, abortion should only be used when the baby is a product from rape and incest. Another case if the baby puts the Mother at risk, as they believe all babies should have a Mother and Father.

Third case, if the Mother does not want the baby, give birth to it and let the baby live with the Father or a foster family.

I do believe abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be conceived.

Green Man wrote:
Al Gershwin wrote:
Yes, an Act - which changed our Constitution....

Yeah, on paper.

It's nothing like in America.


en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom


But just as effective!

Does not mention freedom of speech or expression like the good old First Amendment.


Not forgetting flag burning is legal in the States. Burn a Palestinian, Jewish or Pride flag in the UK is asking for trouble.

Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
I am in the middle on this.
Our thoughts should remain our own, but I do not want to step over Muslim people "aggressively" kneeling to pray in the middle of a busy pavement, as occasionally happens, and equally, a display of prayer intended to intimidate someone going into an abortion clinic when it is perfectly legal is not on either.

I use to know that think all abortion is murder no matter what.

Some said, abortion should only be used when the baby is a product from rape and incest. Another case if the baby puts the Mother at risk, as they believe all babies should have a Mother and Father.

Third case, if the Mother does not want the baby, give birth to it and let the baby live with the Father or a foster family.

I do believe abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be conceived.

I agree, except for extreme circumstances, but we cant force our views on people minding their own business following the law.

Abortion is very often forced on women, by overzealous medics, societal expectations, lack of support, or pressure from the fathers.
Nobody should add to their pain at that moment.

Honey wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Honey wrote:
I am in the middle on this.
Our thoughts should remain our own, but I do not want to step over Muslim people "aggressively" kneeling to pray in the middle of a busy pavement, as occasionally happens, and equally, a display of prayer intended to intimidate someone going into an abortion clinic when it is perfectly legal is not on either.

I use to know that think all abortion is murder no matter what.

Some said, abortion should only be used when the baby is a product from rape and incest. Another case if the baby puts the Mother at risk, as they believe all babies should have a Mother and Father.

Third case, if the Mother does not want the baby, give birth to it and let the baby live with the Father or a foster family.

I do believe abortion is murder, the baby didn't ask to be conceived.

I agree, except for extreme circumstances, but we cant force our views on people minding their own business following the law.

Abortion is very often forced on women, by overzealous medics, societal expectations, lack of support, or pressure from the fathers.
Nobody should add to their pain at that moment.

I have not heard many Father's asking the baby to be aborted but medics and lack of support is a major factor. Of course careless sex is for silly people, Jollies don't always work but they over 99% fool proof.

In America there is a charity called Save The Storks, they park outside abortion clinics and let the mother's hear the heartbeat and offer support.

They have helped the change of mind of expecting mothers when they wanted to abort.

Free snips and abortions.

Evil beyond words. No doubt organ harvesting from murdered offspring will be used at the Grove.

Why do the left have a fetish for depopulation? I guess there is no God
but the elite have a God complex.

Stem cells is a form of cannablism and of course murder.

Dr Levatino, goes into graphic details.