Like him, hate him or, like me, in the middle, he is far and away the best speaker of all the leaders of parties.

If he does a good job in Clacton like bringing investments to the town, expanding the local hospital, keeping crime low and creating jobs in a crowded market then he has done his duty. MPs can't be miracle workers but some don't even don't do anything.

I have never been to Clacton but have researched it needs regenerating.

Hate him but I agree he talks clearly, intelligently. And most importantly doesn't patronise like the others.

Green Man wrote:
I have never been to Clacton

What Clacton-on-Sea needs.


www.ukonward.com/reports/clacton-interim-report/

I cannot abide his endless fawning over Trump. Added to that his manipulative agenda to divide. And having once met Richard Tice, his partner singing from the same hymn sheet, I have never encountered a more odious man. With odious views.

According to Private Eye, Farage hasn't even set up a surgery in Clacton and constituents who want to discuss local issues with him haven't had an opportunity to do so. PE says that the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the Yeti were all in Clacton recently on holiday and didn't spot Farage.

Jo wrote:
According to Private Eye, Farage hasn't even set up a surgery in Clacton and constituents who want to discuss local issues with him haven't had an opportunity to do so. PE says that the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the Yeti were all in Clacton recently on holiday and didn't spot Farage.

I would not be surprised he surgery would have a killer in the audience like Sir David Amess, also you can't talk to people if you are heckled by left wing loons.

Jo Brand said it would be funny if it was battery acid not milkshakes thrown at Farage.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/nigel-farage-constitu...acton-on-sea-knives/

I don't think that Farage gives a monkey's toss about Clacton. He's more interested in Trump and his job on GB News rather than the people of Clacton.

Jo wrote:
According to Private Eye, Farage hasn't even set up a surgery in Clacton and constituents who want to discuss local issues with him haven't had an opportunity to do so. PE says that the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot and the Yeti were all in Clacton recently on holiday and didn't spot Farage.

He is not a man of integrity. But at least he makes that clear for the attentive.

Why anyone, though, would "support" him is a different question; and one, like Trump, I find incomprehensible.

And I kind of like Farage and think I may - on a personal level - like Trump. I just wish they would stop sowing hatred. It is not helpful.

And a practice confined to the weak.

robbiex wrote:
I don't think that Farage gives a monkey's toss about Clacton. He's more interested in Trump and his job on GB News rather than the people of Clacton.

My MP has not held surgery but will talk to you over Zoom if you book an appointment. The last MP was just as useless.

I'm not aware that Farage has spouted any hatred. I'd like some specific examples if they are available. Good luck trying.

But I can find an example of Labour hatred, Raynor and her scum comment towards Tories. Farage hasn't ever used such terms towards his opponents or even migrants crossing the channel.

Andy wrote:
I'm not aware that Farage has spouted any hatred. I'd like some specific examples if they are available. Good luck trying.

But I can find an example of Labour hatred, Raynor and her scum comment towards Tories. Farage hasn't ever used such terms towards his opponents or even migrants crossing the channel.

Of course he hasn't Andy. As I have observed he is an intelligent and an effective populist politician.

So much so that whatever I quote you - as someone who presumably has been persuaded by him - you will say "that's not hatred or divisive that's just a fact".

Of course if there was no immigration I would be able to get an NHS dentist! It's just common sense isn't it? Nothing to do with Government priorities; a Government able to spend billions on Ukraine and unused Covid PPE whenever it wishes can provide more NHS capacity should it wish to.

Farage is a master at deploying non-sequiters. With the intention of sowing division and hatred.

I don't know why you are quoting Raynor at me. I am not an apologist for the Labour party - yes that was a hateful statement as well. And it is notable that she feels she can be explicit in her hatred rather than mealy-mouthed like sly Nigel.

She should have lost her job for that. There are very low standards currently in public life.

Like many millions of people, I haven't been "persuaded by him" Wyot, I already held the views he effectively promotes.

Andy wrote:
Like many millions of people, I haven't been "persuaded by him" Wyot, I already held the views he effectively promotes.

Fair correction Andy.

Andy wrote:
Like many millions of people, I haven't been "persuaded by him" Wyot, I already held the views he effectively promotes.

Yes, this is a very good comeback.

Farage's ability is to be the magnifying glass if you like, for the views of vast numbers of people that they already hold. He may have persuaded a few people of course, like anyone can, but what he is not is some kind of cult leader like a sect who is brainwashing people to his cause. But of course there are those wilder extreme left types and even a few moderates who would like to think this is the case and perhaps that is why they have never quite understood what happened in this country and still refuse to understand and accept it.

Charisma is a great weapon - sadly often in the hands of the wrong people like Hitler. But indeed many DO share Farage's opinions - look at Brexit, a triumph for him and those who felt the same way. Us "Remainers" still think it was the wrong path but they got a majority. The simpler the slogan, the easier it is to attract those who feel slightly the same way and turn them into supporters. These days the middle path is terribly unattractive.

For me the problem with Farage is that he never suggests a realistic solution to the "problems" he defines, which yes are perceived and shared by millions and of course have some validity.

He also never admits there are positives to immigration. So doesn't even attempt to define the real situation (good and bad); just magnifies and plays on people's (understandable) insecurities.

Yet despite this Farage presents himself as the "plain speaking" antidote to mainstream politicians, when he is anything but; and would - being very astute - never say what he really thinks about people who don't look and sound like him.

He is a populist demagogue, like Trump, who offers no realistic alternatives and sows hatred.