Watching this Trump speech at the Al Smith dinner on Thursday evening you have to marvel at a democracy, even as polarised as it now is in the States with deep dislike of Donald Trump, that can still manage to sit his opponents beside each other and have to listen to someone roast the hell out of them. In the end doesn't this show the maturity of Western democracy, which makes the Harris absence all the more misguided.

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The sight of former New York mayor Michael Bloomberg sitting in front of Trump trying not to react to anything he said was actually quite funny. I kept getting drawn to his face for a reaction and none came in nearly half an hour. That took some doing. I wish we could mind read some of those thoughts while Trump waffled on.

I'm pretty sure there is going to be dramas over this election but how I don't know.

I reckon Joe Biden should pardon Trump for any perceived crimes and that would defuse the situation somewhat.

It's going to be an odd situation..last election Mike Pence stood firm on the counting of electoral votes in Biden's win..

But this time it will be Kamala Harris either counting those votes for herself or Trump.

Al Smith Dinner's are like the old The Dean Martin Celebrity Roast. When celebrities had personalities and were not drones.

Don Rickles and Ronald Reagan were the kings of Roasts.

I never trust anyone who can't laugh at themselves.

Bill Clinton said the quiet bit loud about Trump, hinting he would vote for Trump.

Green Man wrote:
Al Smith Dinner's are like the old The Dean Martin Celebrity Roast. When celebrities had personalities and were not drones.

Don Rickles and Ronald Reagan were the kings of Roasts.

I never trust anyone who can't laugh at themselves.

Bill Clinton said the quiet bit loud about Trump, hinting he would vote for Trump.


I'd love to see Donald Trump cackle with laughter like Kamala Harris, just once will do. Although he did make self depreciating jokes at his own expense at the dinner I don't think he can really laugh at himself genuinely, or laugh out loud at anyone else either very much. Nobody appears to have ever seen Trump actually laugh.

Where did Clinton drop that hint Green Man? I do have trouble believing Clinton or Obama are enthusiastic about Harris. Even Biden is supposed to be secretly cool on her. She missed a good opportunity not gpoing to the dinner, it would have done her no harm at all but it says a lot about her that she couldn't even mix it with many fellow democrats alongside Trump there.

At the dinner Trump said it was normal for both Presidential candidates to attend before the election, without realising that it was also normal and expected that both candidates in the election, with an outgoing President, attend the inauguration which he skipped, so that was a bit rich to be honest and hypocritical. I bet many at the dinner had this thought. Almost a surprise nobody felt inclined to blurt this fact out at him.

There is a snippet in some Brandon Tatum and ABL videos. I haven't got time to dig through them, Bill Clinton did admit if migrants were vetted Lanken Riley would be alive.

If you watch Line In The Sand by James O'Keefe, Lanken Riley is the hot topic at the end of the film. It's worth downloading.