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#251177
Green Man

Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
So the streets are safer because someone sold dodgy Amazon Firesticks is locked up for 3 years.

The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.

Detective Sergeant Steve Frame from Merseyside Police said: "Merseyside Police is committed to working in collaboration to investigate intellectual property theft and we welcome today's sentence handed to Edge.

"Many people see no harm in illegally streaming TV services but they are wrong, and this outcome should serve as a further warning how seriously such copyright theft continues to be taken."


Det Steve Frame, needs to give his head a wobble, people have been pirating movies for decades.

Who else remembers video shops selling bootleg videos copied from their rentals? Even some Chinese takeaways would try flog you pirated Hong Kong tapes from under the counter.

You can even be racist infront of the police if they agree with your idealogy. The police hates Jews or they scared of Muslims. Which should be classed as Islamaphobic.


news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-more-t...5AI-_xH0FsHc263qgiVQ
 
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#251178
Wyot

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Green Man wrote:


The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.



The Police don't sentence GM the Courts do. No one found guilty of being involved directly in grooming gangs or people smuggling has been sentenced to community service.

Glitter had vastly more material and of the worst categories than Edwards, and was not sent the material but sourced it himself over a long period of time. Judges rightly consider such matters in mitigation.
 
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#251181
Green Man

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Wyot wrote:
Green Man wrote:


The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.



The Police don't sentence GM the Courts do. No one found guilty of being involved directly in grooming gangs or people smuggling has been sentenced to community service.

Glitter had vastly more material and of the worst categories than Edwards, and was not sent the material but sourced it himself over a long period of time. Judges rightly consider such matters in mitigation.


I was talking metaphorically about a suspended sentence and community service. A few nonces in Dorset got both Wyot.

It does not matter what material Edwards or Glitter it was illegal, no doubt Edwards has powerful connections. Not many people in showbiz liked Glitter behind the scenes.

I would have thought the police had bigger fish to fry than deep-dive over dodgy Firesticks. There was a time when the police would have asked you to fix you with dodgy cable and boxes, and then nothing else was said afterwards.
 
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#251183
Al Gershwin

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Such a dated argument! 'He got off light - she was hard done by'...

Answer - sentencing is down to the courts, and government legislation...
 
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#251185
Downing Street Cat

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Green Man wrote:
So the streets are safer because someone sold dodgy Amazon Firesticks is locked up for 3 years.

The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.

Detective Sergeant Steve Frame from Merseyside Police said: "Merseyside Police is committed to working in collaboration to investigate intellectual property theft and we welcome today's sentence handed to Edge.

"Many people see no harm in illegally streaming TV services but they are wrong, and this outcome should serve as a further warning how seriously such copyright theft continues to be taken."


Det Steve Frame, needs to give his head a wobble, people have been pirating movies for decades.

Who else remembers video shops selling bootleg videos copied from their rentals? Even some Chinese takeaways would try flog you pirated Hong Kong tapes from under the counter.

You can even be racist infront of the police if they agree with your idealogy. The police hates Jews or they scared of Muslims. Which should be classed as Islamaphobic.


news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-more-t...5AI-_xH0FsHc263qgiVQ

Utter madness sending him down, and all because the mega rich football clubs lose a few peanuts. As a youngster of 18 I pirated some video titles, only in a small way, and it helped get me through Uni. I remember having a few copies of ET--went like hotcakes. I could have done some porridge for it? Apologies to Steven Spielberg btw.
 
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#251187
Green Man

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Downing Street Cat wrote:
Green Man wrote:
So the streets are safer because someone sold dodgy Amazon Firesticks is locked up for 3 years.

The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.

Detective Sergeant Steve Frame from Merseyside Police said: "Merseyside Police is committed to working in collaboration to investigate intellectual property theft and we welcome today's sentence handed to Edge.

"Many people see no harm in illegally streaming TV services but they are wrong, and this outcome should serve as a further warning how seriously such copyright theft continues to be taken."


Det Steve Frame, needs to give his head a wobble, people have been pirating movies for decades.

Who else remembers video shops selling bootleg videos copied from their rentals? Even some Chinese takeaways would try flog you pirated Hong Kong tapes from under the counter.

You can even be racist infront of the police if they agree with your idealogy. The police hates Jews or they scared of Muslims. Which should be classed as Islamaphobic.


news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-more-t...5AI-_xH0FsHc263qgiVQ

Utter madness sending him down, and all because the mega rich football clubs lose a few peanuts. As a youngster of 18 I pirated some video titles, only in a small way, and it helped get me through Uni. I remember having a few copies of ET--went like hotcakes. I could have done some porridge for it? Apologies to Steven Spielberg btw.


I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that trial. In the 1980s there were tons of shops selling knock-off VHS tapes on the cheap, mostly sold in Asian mini-marts or record shops.


The live concerts were recorded by camcorders shoved up in coats.
The sound was 50/50 but some of the footage was superb, sometimes better than the official releases. No wonder VHS won the format war against Betamax.


If sports leagues and Sky/BT etc want to crack down on piracy, lower ticket prices and sports packages.

Give it time Firesticks etc will be sold from China, if Temu stopped selling some there would be another supplier and so on.
 
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#251190
Downing Street Cat

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Green Man wrote:
Downing Street Cat wrote:
Green Man wrote:
So the streets are safer because someone sold dodgy Amazon Firesticks is locked up for 3 years.

The police need to know there is dealers with their county lines, grooming gangs, human smuggling and lots other serious crimes you're going to get community service or walkaway free from these crimes. Watching some IPTV is a bigger crime.

Gary Glitter got jail for the same offenses as Huw Edwards, who got a suspended sentance.

Detective Sergeant Steve Frame from Merseyside Police said: "Merseyside Police is committed to working in collaboration to investigate intellectual property theft and we welcome today's sentence handed to Edge.

"Many people see no harm in illegally streaming TV services but they are wrong, and this outcome should serve as a further warning how seriously such copyright theft continues to be taken."


Det Steve Frame, needs to give his head a wobble, people have been pirating movies for decades.

Who else remembers video shops selling bootleg videos copied from their rentals? Even some Chinese takeaways would try flog you pirated Hong Kong tapes from under the counter.

You can even be racist infront of the police if they agree with your idealogy. The police hates Jews or they scared of Muslims. Which should be classed as Islamaphobic.


news.sky.com/story/man-jailed-for-more-t...5AI-_xH0FsHc263qgiVQ

Utter madness sending him down, and all because the mega rich football clubs lose a few peanuts. As a youngster of 18 I pirated some video titles, only in a small way, and it helped get me through Uni. I remember having a few copies of ET--went like hotcakes. I could have done some porridge for it? Apologies to Steven Spielberg btw.


I would have loved to be a fly on the wall during that trial. In the 1980s there were tons of shops selling knock-off VHS tapes on the cheap, mostly sold in Asian mini-marts or record shops.


The live concerts were recorded by camcorders shoved up in coats.
The sound was 50/50 but some of the footage was superb, sometimes better than the official releases. No wonder VHS won the format war against Betamax.


If sports leagues and Sky/BT etc want to crack down on piracy, lower ticket prices and sports packages.

Give it time Firesticks etc will be sold from China, if Temu stopped selling some there would be another supplier and so on.
Bang on the Mahoney GM.
 
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#251198
Green Man

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I did have a bootleg copy of Capricorn One DSC back in the day. The artwork on the box was very good. I have no idea why the bootleggers used an E240 blanket tape when they could have used an E180.

They could have fitted another film on there or had Capricorn One on a loop if they recorded it in LP mode.
 
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#251201
Downing Street Cat

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I admit many of my vids were very poor quality. But people back then weren't as fussed about picture and sound quality. I had one supplier and they were clearly cams...literally someone with a camcorder in a cinema...you'd actually hear people munching on ice lollies on the soundtrack. Lol.
 
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#251203
Sally Nice

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Bootlegs are ancient/historic low standard products in this computer driven era - with sophisticated internet and streaming techniques capable of cloning virtually anything.

Even that isn't foolproof - as I'm currently watching 'The Day of the Jackal' on a 'dark' site I found! And I have no relationship with Sky, the broadcaster and am not paying anything to anyone.
 
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#251206
hedda

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Actually GG didn't really get a severe sentence for his original illicit material conviction.

But why is he back in jail?

Stitched up definitely.
 
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#251217
Wyot

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
hedda wrote:
Actually GG didn't really get a severe sentence for his original illicit material conviction.

But why is he back in jail?

Stitched up definitely.


He broke his licence conditions. This can lead to the Probation Service recalling anyone to prison. His choice. They can't recall someone if they haven't broken one of the conditions.
 
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#251231
Green Man

Re:Prison 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Wyot wrote:
hedda wrote:
Actually GG didn't really get a severe sentence for his original illicit material conviction.

But why is he back in jail?

Stitched up definitely.


He broke his licence conditions. This can lead to the Probation Service recalling anyone to prison. His choice. They can't recall someone if they haven't broken one of the conditions.


I still think he broke the conditions on purpose, he is in a Catch-22. If he is out the media will stalk him so with YouTubers and Tic-Tockers. He is inside but wasting his twilight years in prison with nothing to do. If he was not a popstar with fame like he had he would have been out years ago on licence. A lot of nonces are released in the community with a small entourage or a minder for their protection. I have no idea why they are out at all.
 
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