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I seem to be alone in thinking we need to look after the very worst in humanity as well as trying to protect the innocent.
If Starmer was any good he'd do what Corbyn would do - establish some new Lunatic Asylums to care for (and keep secure) the insane like Axel.
Broadmoor was like that (where, surely, Axel should be). We closed down many when, in Victorian times, they became ghastly, unkind places.
The Brianna Ghey killers should be there too.
Instead of pretending he can do anything to stop loonies, Starmer (and Trump) should show compassion for ALL (and protection for all too).
Starmer is to blame for helping out with Axel's parent's asylum claims. It's another Laken Riley but in the UK. If it was States, the UK MSM would bury it, as Sky News is trying to do, as it does not fit the Welsh choirboy narrative.
Psychiatric hospitals around the world were closed on the highly suspect claim "care in the community".
Usually it was just land grabs in many cases as so many hospitals had been built on now prime land often over 100 years ago.
One example I read was quite tragic: in the state of NSW the then Health minister declared several hospitals would be closed and the land sold off for the infamous "care in the community"
Sadly for him both his sons eventually committed suicide when they couldn't find that care.
Of course it was all about saving money really?! Hundreds of patient's,some who'd been living in them for decades turfed out,many of them,'institionalised' and without any experience of the outside world or how to relate to,supposedly,'sane/normal people and without any thought of where or how to house them. There's a big old victorian one where I live. It was almost like a village with it's own shop,cafe,library,chapel and church! It even had it's own gas works at one time! They had all their company there. They were safe! (Violent patient's would be subdued and put in a locked ward) We were safe from them! (That said,any violent crime round here always seems to by supposedly sane people,usually fuelled by alcohol!) I just can't wondering how many suicides resulted from these mass evictions,because that's what they,essentially,were! We'll probably never know!
Starmer is to blame for helping out with Axel's parent's asylum claims. It's another Laken Riley but in the UK. If it was States, the UK MSM would bury it, as Sky News is trying to do, as it does not fit the Welsh choirboy narrative.
So what's the narrative of Axel's deflectors of blame? Yep. Blame the Left/Woke. I don't like Starmer--he had absolutely fuck all to with what happened that day in Southport. How could he know a maniac would stab little girls hundreds of times in the face on a Summer's day? Yes. He went for their eyes first. They screamed in total agony.
I don't talk here about "blame". I'm talking about solution. Half a dozen "lunatic asylums" - different name please, could house, home, treat and keep secure every currently jailed loony. Like "put on cheap secure ferries" it's the obvious way to sort the problem.
JK2006 wrote: I don't talk here about "blame". I'm talking about solution. Half a dozen "lunatic asylums" - different name please, could house, home, treat and keep secure every currently jailed loony. Like "put on cheap secure ferries" it's the obvious way to sort the problem.
Totally agree but is it possible with the ghastly lot who run the joint today.
The absolutely awful Tony Blair (Starmer's mentor) saying the most ludicrous thing the other day..that people should stop "self diagnosing" themselves as depressed.
He's actually telling people not to seek help over a possible psychiatric condition.
And the media, other politicians just ignore this incredibly dangerous statement
JK2006 wrote: I don't talk here about "blame". I'm talking about solution. Half a dozen "lunatic asylums" - different name please, could house, home, treat and keep secure every currently jailed loony. Like "put on cheap secure ferries" it's the obvious way to sort the problem.
You keep saying this but it's not the solution, this would only make matters ten times worse even if the people smugglers revenue dried up in the process. Talk about adding another huge incentive! Most people are mad enough that the RNLI are being abused as a defacto ferry service as it is, can you imagine if we ramped it up to full scale cross channel ferries for the sole use of any illegal that fancied a ride here. No thanks! We have got to STOP them, not just the smugglers.
Let's not forget, NOBODY was floating across illegally in just 2017, and only a handful did in 2018. We the UK created the attraction here for that to suddenly balloon, and that's the Tories ownership of Theresa May and the hapless Boris. They should be ashamed of themselves, they failed in the most solemn and important duty of any leader and government - to keep the country safe and maintain it's security. They were like the captain of a boat who notices a leak but decides to leave it until the thing begins to list badly before deciding there was a problem.
JK2006 wrote: I don't talk here about "blame". I'm talking about solution. Half a dozen "lunatic asylums" - different name please, could house, home, treat and keep secure every currently jailed loony. Like "put on cheap secure ferries" it's the obvious way to sort the problem.
Trying to think of another name for 'lunatic asylum'. Parliament perhaps. Seriously, they would have to funded and run much better than in the past. I once visited Rampton. Awful place with a deeply oppressive atmosphere. But not many would want Axel, Huntley, Sutcliffe in nice places. But no question Axel is insane.
Downing Street Cat wrote: Green Man wrote: Compassion works both ways JK.
Starmer is to blame for helping out with Axel's parent's asylum claims. It's another Laken Riley but in the UK. If it was States, the UK MSM would bury it, as Sky News is trying to do, as it does not fit the Welsh choirboy narrative.
So what's the narrative of Axel's deflectors of blame? Yep. Blame the Left/Woke. I don't like Starmer--he had absolutely fuck all to with what happened that day in Southport. How could he know a maniac would stab little girls hundreds of times in the face on a Summer's day? Yes. He went for their eyes first. They screamed in total agony.
Ordering a copy of a certain 1970s cookbook does flag up when it's ordered. Amazon and the police use it as a honeytrap. I think even looking it at online, will have your ISP monitor your Internet habits more closely.
Axel bought a very dodgy book from a Waterstones marketplace and it didn't raise alarms.
Green Man wrote: Downing Street Cat wrote: Green Man wrote: Compassion works both ways JK.
Starmer is to blame for helping out with Axel's parent's asylum claims. It's another Laken Riley but in the UK. If it was States, the UK MSM would bury it, as Sky News is trying to do, as it does not fit the Welsh choirboy narrative.
So what's the narrative of Axel's deflectors of blame? Yep. Blame the Left/Woke. I don't like Starmer--he had absolutely fuck all to with what happened that day in Southport. How could he know a maniac would stab little girls hundreds of times in the face on a Summer's day? Yes. He went for their eyes first. They screamed in total agony.
I beg to differ on that one Cat. How could anyone possibly know that this lunatic would do such a horrendous thing GM? How could anyone know? Do you lock up indefinitely every troubled teen? Just in case?
Rich wrote: JK2006 wrote: I don't talk here about "blame". I'm talking about solution. Half a dozen "lunatic asylums" - different name please, could house, home, treat and keep secure every currently jailed loony. Like "put on cheap secure ferries" it's the obvious way to sort the problem.
You keep saying this but it's not the solution, this would only make matters ten times worse even if the people smugglers revenue dried up in the process. Talk about adding another huge incentive! Most people are mad enough that the RNLI are being abused as a defacto ferry service as it is, can you imagine if we ramped it up to full scale cross channel ferries for the sole use of any illegal that fancied a ride here. No thanks! We have got to STOP them, not just the smugglers.
Let's not forget, NOBODY was floating across illegally in just 2017, and only a handful did in 2018. We the UK created the attraction here for that to suddenly balloon, and that's the Tories ownership of Theresa May and the hapless Boris. They should be ashamed of themselves, they failed in the most solemn and important duty of any leader and government - to keep the country safe and maintain it's security. They were like the captain of a boat who notices a leak but decides to leave it until the thing begins to list badly before deciding there was a problem.
Much of what you say is correct.
However there is one factor being ignored: Britain along with partners like the USA etc has helped blow this world apart, invading countries that have never harmed us or on dodgy claims ("Weapons of mass destruction").
Millions have been killed in our name and multi millions displaced. In a country like Libya which despite it's dictator had an extremely good lifestyle with it's oil wealth spent on the masses.Now they have slave markets and war lords.
The West has created millions of refugees and amongst them must be 1000s of mentally ill people.
Can you just imagine the mental health of the of Palestinians..the tens of thousands of children who have lost parents.
And lets not even mention Austerity now beloved by a rotten Labour Party that since it's election has literally targeted the weakest in society for harsh penalties.
Downing Street Cat wrote: Green Man wrote: Downing Street Cat wrote: Green Man wrote: Compassion works both ways JK.
Starmer is to blame for helping out with Axel's parent's asylum claims. It's another Laken Riley but in the UK. If it was States, the UK MSM would bury it, as Sky News is trying to do, as it does not fit the Welsh choirboy narrative.
So what's the narrative of Axel's deflectors of blame? Yep. Blame the Left/Woke. I don't like Starmer--he had absolutely fuck all to with what happened that day in Southport. How could he know a maniac would stab little girls hundreds of times in the face on a Summer's day? Yes. He went for their eyes first. They screamed in total agony.
I beg to differ on that one Cat. How could anyone possibly know that this lunatic would do such a horrendous thing GM? How could anyone know? Do you lock up indefinitely every troubled teen? Just in case?
There was a time that ISP would monitor everybit of Internet surfing from their customers, anything illegal would be flagged up, if you carried on the police would knock on your door. The Dark Web which I have never been on seems, to be the legal loophole to access the dodgy stuff.
Buying dodgy books from Waterstone should have been used as a honeypot like the Anarchist Cookbook is used for on Amazon. Even Amazon, will notify the police on their customers dodgy buys.
How could anyone possibly know that this lunatic would do such a horrendous thing GM? How could anyone know? Do you lock up indefinitely every troubled teen? Just in case?
Well he was reported to Prevent numerous times and his father knew some of his habits. The Manchester Arena bomber was on the watchlist also. There needs to be reason why teens can be this disturbed, is it because of certain Holy books?
Peter Hitchins has always been a shit and making excuses. I have no idea why Sky News were cutting the feed, was she scared that Axel is the wrong colour for their Welsh boy narrative?
Even Farage knows the war on drugs is over and Hitchins didn't want to join Reform after that.
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