Serious consequences for the UK - if Trump reduces US rate to 14/15%


www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/content/ar-A...MYP?ocid=superappdhp


Could cost us over £18 billion....

Europe will also be affected - this slightly dated link shows their corporate tax rates (Ireland's has now increased to 15%).


images.app.goo.gl/sP9jikNPqWEk9HXU6


A US tax rate of 14/15% would undercut almost every European country - where many US conglomerates are domiciled. For now....

According to Farage UK is 22 trillion pounds in debt, not £22 billion according to Reeves from the Complaints Dept.

I guess the UK need a forever war soon.

Both figures are incorrect. Currently, the National Debt is c£2.8 Trillion


BBC News - How does the government borrow money?

www.bbc.com/news/business-50504151

I really believe that under President Musk, president in name only Trump is putting into play Steve Bannon's doctrine of "burn the joint down" and see what happens when the dust settles.

Bannon claims to hate Musk yet that he also has a huge influence with Trump . Perhaps it's a game. Trump did pardon him for his scam Mexico Wall that the punters put up $20M which has disappeared

Look at the evidence..first of terrible tariffs announced with close allies Canada and Mexico but backed off at the last minute but wu=ith both countries putting their foot down.

Of course Britain is in debt but the bank can print it's own money.

Tax estimated tax avoidance by the rich is 2 Billion. bET THAT'S JUST A FRACTION.

Did Trump ever actually release his own personal tax returns?

Rich wrote:
Did Trump ever actually release his own personal tax returns?

Watch Maddow from ABC a few years ago?

Rich wrote:
Did Trump ever actually release his own personal tax returns?

yes and he paid most years under $1000.

Creative accounting but of course we know he's a convicted felon for his business frauds.

How anyone can think this man is OK or clever really gets to me..he's a monster who is responsible for 1000s of Covid deaths for is moronic actions..

Now at the SuperBowl press conference he is back to threatening Canada.

He announces he wants to commit a war crime and genocide on the Palestinian people and some actually thinks this is OK.

Taking into account all that you've said Hedda, explain why Trump is now more popular than he ever was, having won over a lot of new people who would never have given him the time of day back in 2016 or even 2020, including me in that.

hedda wrote:
[quote]Rich wrote:


How anyone can think this man is OK or clever really gets to me..he's a monster who is responsible for 1000s of Covid deaths for is moronic actions..

Now at the SuperBowl press conference he is back to threatening Canada.



I know Hedda.

He is morally vile and an aggressive, simplistic idiot.

I too am bewildered how so many consider it somehow "sophisticated" to admire these "qualities" . I think those who put a positive spin on him are actually fearful but don't wish to admit it - even to themselves.

We live I think at the end of a civilisation.

Trump isn't all bad - things just couldn't continue as they are. For example, foreign aid/USAID and immigration.

America gives billions of dollars every year to about 175 countries; these now expect to receive it, indefinitely.


www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/artic...ign-aid-from-the-u-s

Al Gershwin wrote:
Trump isn't all bad - things just couldn't continue as they are. For example, foreign aid/USAID and immigration.



I didn't say he was all bad and I'm not saying everything he does is bad.

I am saying that his values and morality - which are self evident to read - are such that in a civilised country he would widely be considered unsuitable for office.

The fact that so many convince themselves that these facets of him are somehow to be celebrated tells us a lot.

I am not really writing about Trump. He is very boring as a subject. I am suggesting he is a symptom of cultural malaise.

And that it is the cultural decline which should interest and trouble us. But as ever most miss the point, the real issue.

As you'll see in other threads WYOT I've always worried that someone's faults and flaws may negate their suitability for office of some kind. Like "diversity" and democracy (voting for someone because you like their hair or teeth) it means people who may be vile human beings cannot become superb (sometimes) Health Ministers or Tabloid Editors.

That's very much my feeling about Trump. If you've not seen The Apprentice movie - do watch it.

JK2006 wrote:
As you'll see in other threads WYOT I've always worried that someone's faults and flaws may negate their suitability for office of some kind. Like "diversity" and democracy (voting for someone because you like their hair or teeth) it means people who may be vile human beings cannot become superb (sometimes) Health Ministers or Tabloid Editors.

That's very much my feeling about Trump. If you've not seen The Apprentice movie - do watch it.

I get where you are coming from in a practical sense JK.

I think the extra concern about society, is not just whether a person like Trump should be in office? But that so many celebrate his failings and see them as somehow "honest" or "strengths".

Lying and hateful speech have become positive "smart guy" manipulation and taking a scythe to "diversity". The latter concept in turn has been extended to mean any loving inclusive notions.

Forgetting Trump, what does this say about society?

Would you not rather have a leader of your country who might be a bit rough around the edges, even "a vile human being" but who actually got things kicked into shape and done making the place much better again for the people within your own country, or a "very nice pleasant and polite" person who was utterly useless at achieving anything meaningful and was pushed about by others.

Unfortunately in our own country we have the worst of both worlds, that "vile human being" who is also completely useless and making things worse for almost everyone. I think there are very few even within the Trump loving MAGA movement that think he's an angel like Mother Theresa!

You don't think the USA is a civilised nation anymore Wyot?

I would question how civilised any nation is RICH where millions celebrate and believe to be strengths - lies and hateful, divisive rhetoric.

You also pose me what I think is a false dichotomy. Would I rather have a vile person making things better for most, or a nice person not doing so?

Rich, I don't believe that a man with the values and beliefs Trump has CAN make things better for the majority. And have yet to see him do so. I don't believe you can separate beliefs and actions in this way.

Mainly because I have some knowledge of cognitive psychology and understand that actions come from beliefs. And ugly beliefs lead to ugly actions.

I hope I am proved wrong by the end of this presidency.

Interesting Wyot, adding to your philosophy...

Is it possible that ugly actions can lead to beautiful outcomes?

Rich wrote:
Interesting Wyot, adding to your philosophy...

Is it possible that ugly actions can lead to beautiful outcomes?

Yes it is but inadvertantly. Because ugly beliefs lead to ugly actions far more often than inadvertant beautiful outcomes, I believe this will be an ugly presidential term overall and in aggregate.