He thinks the UK still matters. We would if we were still part of the EU. And surely "troops" are needed in GAZA - for rebuilding and rescuing hostages - and should have been since Oct 7th - not in Ukraine.

Mind you, if the idea is like Russia using North Koreans as cannon fodder, I'm sure British soldiers would be happy to die for Paddington. (Irony)

For me this confirms Starmer is an idiot. As things stand could possibly go down as the worst PM in history. Out of Europe and so let's make enemies of Russia and the USA is a cunning plan that even Baldrick would disown. I am speechless.

Our troops shouldn't be anywhere near Gaza and Ukraine. This man wants a forever war. Why are Labour voters still silent?

Starmer is a psychopath.

Downing Street Cat wrote:
For me this confirms Starmer is an idiot. As things stand could possibly go down as the worst PM in history. Out of Europe and so let's make enemies of Russia and the USA is a cunning plan that even Baldrick would disown. I am speechless.

He's giving away British overseas territory like Chagos, probably wouldn't even think to send a task force down to the Falklands if Argentina invaded again, even if we could still manage one, but wants to place British armed forces onto former USSR territory to defend Eastern Ukraine and probably other parts of that country.

Peacekeepers? What happens the moment a Russian attack kills 10 British troops then?

We haven't even got enough in the British army to defend London never mind the whole UK if the worst happened directly to ourselves.

On just about any important decision since last July Starmer has made the wrong turn. Who is advising this man?

Rich wrote:
[quote]Downing Street Cat wrote:


Peacekeepers? What happens the moment a Russian attack kills 10 British troops then?



Officially the end of the British army; as this will leave no further troops....

Funny how Starmer wants to talk to Trump about being involved with wars with nothing to do with us.

Has Starmer picked up the phone or taken orders from Blair. Blair knows about illegal wars and getting away with it.

Starmer should send the Ukraine GI Joe a bag of coke.

Starmer can't send the Army to protect the South East borders but he can protect overseas borders.

I wonder if Boris will make a comeback in politics.

Where are the socialists protesting about Starmer protesting?

I am sure Labour will a vaccine to stop a war or a lockdown.

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Rich wrote:
Downing Street Cat wrote:


Peacekeepers? What happens the moment a Russian attack kills 10 British troops then?



Officially the end of the British army; as this will leave no further troops....



The next lot is in the migrant hotels and colleges Wyot.

We've seen Starmer in his combat camouflage gear previously during a walk around with some army people, is he prepared to get that gear back on again and go and walk the walk himself like he now talks? Of course not!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/12/21/keir...g-military-fatigues/

I do like Fast Jet Performance views on Ukraine and Starmer.

Starmer is taking cosplay lessons from the Ukrainian midget.

It's all very well putting troops in Ukraine, just try getting them back out again.

Literally everything about Britain nowadays seems to be about the assistance of other people, foreigners, as a priority over and above the actual people who the government of the United Kingdom is really here to serve and spend their own taxpayer money on.

The points being made last night about a reticence to use our own forces to defend our own borders from illegal invasion but a keen willingness to defend someone else's is true isn't it. Because what is "invading" OUR country is a vast number of fighting age males and few others.

I hadn't been thinking Starmer had been listening to too many whispwers in his ear from Tony Blair because he's made so many big errors since last summer and Blair would have not made them, he was at least a largely credible PM in his time, but I do wonder about this Ukraine thinking process coming out of Starmer.

So we put troops in Ukraine...

How long are they there for?

What are they doing there?

What happens if any are killed by Russians?

How do we bring them back out, and on what basis?

If peacekeepers, do they retaliate if attacked?

What about mission creep, slowly sucked further in?

How many are we sending?


I find it hard to believe that the head of the British Army and the Chief of the Defence Staff could possibly think this is a good idea. Once we set foot there we could be there for years, or even permanently. That's unacceptable.

Meanwhile the press reports that government is looking to make cuts here at home for all of us so they can spend more on Ukraine. Disgusting beyond belief. Our own leaders seeking to deliberately impoverish British people in order to get one over on Putin and look great.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no pacifist and believe in peace through strength, but this is not the sane way ahead and nobody I know thinks it is either and none of them are pacifist appeasers either, we all want Ukraine to win and Putin's murderous rule to end.

Starmer needs to focus on the improvements in the UK, not be worried about 2 corrupt countries.

Trump wants a ceasefire and Starmer wants a war across Europe.

And again why is Starmer so concerned about Ukraine but quite willing to see Gazans slaughtered and hounded out of their own land? He's a hypocrite and a coward.

William Hague addresses Starmer's comments here. Basically saying they weren't wise unless Starmer is committed to boosting troop numbers.

Starmer will be nicking Sunak's national service policy at the rate he's going.