To simplify it appears one side says WE ARE HUMANS and the other says NO WE'RE NOT WE'RE BRITISH.

JK2006 wrote:
To simplify it appears one side says WE ARE HUMANS and the other says NO WE'RE NOT WE'RE BRITISH.

Really like this; and wholly agree.

And cheaper food over Sovereignty. You can't eat sovereignty. Still expecting Starmer to duck out through terror of the Right wing tabloids. Allegedly the man took out a restraining order on his own shadow.

Brexit II may well be announced today - including new fishing rights and a security pact.



www.breakingthenews.net/news/details/64133445

baha breaking news

JK2006 wrote:
To simplify it appears one side says WE ARE HUMANS and the other says NO WE'RE NOT WE'RE BRITISH.

Millions of deluded Brits believe in a Britain that never actually existed.

There was no British Golden Era. It's a fantasy sold to them by goons like Farage.

As somebody who lived through the GOLDEN era of Great Britain (the 60s) I'm not sure I agree Hedda. We ruled the world of music, movies, fashion, social attitudes... it was a marvellous time for us baby boomers.

hedda wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
To simplify it appears one side says WE ARE HUMANS and the other says NO WE'RE NOT WE'RE BRITISH.

Millions of deluded Brits believe in a Britain that never actually existed.

There was no British Golden Era. It's a fantasy sold to them by goons like Farage.

I watched The Blue Lamp yet again the other day. What's interesting is that in the era of Dixon of Dock Green, in those early post war years some youngsters felt disenfranchised and wound up going into a life of crime, which is essentially the film's subject matter. Brighton Rock too illustrates how young men were wooed into the gangster lifestyle, the dishevelled trilby, the dark alleys, the platinum blondes. The idea that crime didn't exist, back doors were wide open, with rosy cheeked midwives on bicycles, Dick Barton on the radio, manicured hedges and bob a job scouts, nah, that chocolate box England is something of a myth.

Recently Hedda wrote of the OZ vote, "The turnout as usual is at least 90% of voters. Voting is compulsory although it's only a $20 fine for not voting."

To which Open Mind wrote, "Fake DeMockracy UK has £1,000 fine for non-return of Census Forms (of control) every 10 years. But NO penalty for not voting in an Election or Referendum - DOH?!

And, low turnout fake vote BrexShit had 13 million NON-voters. Meaning that a 62% majority did NOT vote 'Leave'. Same 62% majority 'Remain' as in sensible Scotland and Ulster.

FOOLED again by money-man Farage, "UKIP if U want to we're staying Wide Awake!"

I was only a baby in the 1960s but I wouldn't change anything about the 1980s apart from the Troubles and Falklands war.

People were upbeat, knew how to communicate and knew how to rock. Brexit was not meant to work, we can't control borders due to legal red tape but oddly a Calais migrant camp got pull down when GB News visited it. Did they smash a gang, something Starmer was supposed to have done?

JK2006 wrote:
As somebody who lived through the GOLDEN era of Great Britain (the 60s) I'm not sure I agree Hedda. We ruled the world of music, movies, fashion, social attitudes... it was a marvellous time for us baby boomers.

Yes I agree the 60s were terrific and most of the 70s as well. But it was for a privileged few.

Not for the vast majority of the British public who really were working hand to mouth.

But they could live vicariously through celebrities and music & those of us who were basically in the know.

The new found social freedoms off the 60s were basically for a few as the vast majority toiled away for poverty wages only relieved by the fact there was bugger all to do except watch TV.

But there was no magic era for millions of working class Brits that Brexiters falsely claim.

When you see the bloated guts of beer sodden dills with their St George Cross flags attacking immigrant hotels as though there was some magic rosy past it is really something.

I think 100,000s see life through beer goggles so you end up with the destructive Brexit nonsense & idiotic crap like "making our own laws" when none of them can ever enunciate what said laws are about.

Millions seem to believe that immigrants have taken something away from them..and of course life is dire..but they didn't have whatever they think was taken away from, in the first place.

Sold to them by snake oil salesmen like Farage who chooses to have a German passport.

Working hand to mouth on poverty wages, nothing has changed then.

You can be rich in life without having worthless crap in the house. Before my father died, I did ask him what the 60s were like apart from having kids, and he said the following

"They were magical years, despite working my bum off, I saw a lot of loud fashion and good legs, great gigs and seeing Procol Harum for myself and seeing Herman bloody Hermits to please your mother, both gigs were about 50p each and taking her out for a £5 and still had change for fish and chips, when the TV broke, it was early nights with your mother".


I think he loved her more than she loved him, sadly.

A young lad asked me about the 1980s when I commented on his mullet. I told him, "People were upbeat, knew how to flirt and chat, and almost everyone could afford the cinema on both Friday and Saturday nights with popcorn. Bootleg VHS tapes in shops under the counter in sweet shops, Saturday jobs were the norm, even if you were below 16, a lot of kids had their own money, not the bank or mum and dad.

Record shops sold very cheap imports and warehouse and fire damaged stock at rock bottom prices, reading music magazines was a must and flipping through the back in shops to see upcoming gigs and hoping your favourite band played locally and running to the public payphone to book up if you couldn't get to the venue, I saw Poison for a few about 15 dollars in the 1980s and GnR tickets were as little as £5."

The poor kid was about to cry with envy.

I didn't own much as a young man apart from a shitty car, basic HiFi. Most of the wages went to gigs, nights out and a bit on Susan.

Open Mind wrote:
Recently Hedda wrote of the OZ vote, "The turnout as usual is at least 90% of voters. Voting is compulsory although it's only a $20 fine for not voting."

To which Open Mind wrote, "Fake DeMockracy UK has £1,000 fine for non-return of Census Forms (of control) every 10 years. But NO penalty for not voting in an Election or Referendum - DOH?!

And, low turnout fake vote BrexShit had 13 million NON-voters. Meaning that a 62% majority did NOT vote 'Leave'. Same 62% majority 'Remain' as in sensible Scotland and Ulster.

FOOLED again by money-man Farage, "UKIP if U want to we're staying Wide Awake!"

The turn out was actually over 98% of the electorate but there is always say 100K spoiled votes. That's generally people objecting to compulsory voting but not wanting to be fined.

There are good arguments that the compulsory vote is undemocratic but it's had a very good result.

Voting always happens on a Saturday with a holiday atmosphere encouraged.

Result: the left leaning Labor winner picked up 93 seats as opposed to the losing conservatives with a sad 43 seats, on a 54% of votes after, another great aspect, where voters choose their alternative preference
if their chosen candidate doesn't get up.

Nearly 2 million votes for the Greens usually flow to Labor.

Labor can truly say it has a mandate.

This is dire for the losing conservatives when also 9 former conservative women who don't like the way the conservative party have gone so right wing won seats.

The conservatives stupidly promoted Trump style policies including setting up a DOGE to sack 1000s of public servants in Canberra with one idiotic Indigenous conservative wearing a MAGA hat during the campaign.

Her ludicrous spending of $100K on flights paid by the government including chartering a jet to fly 300 miles didn't help

In the all powerful Upper House the far more left wing Greens hold the balance of power.

So the French can stop a big fishing boat, but not a rubber boat?

What slice of the cake do the UK get with this new EU deal? The UK will be buying fish from France which were caught in British waters. Starmer is another elite globalist.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1474567...render.html#comments

Green Man wrote:
The UK will be buying fish from France which were caught in British waters.


Nothing new there then - as long as quotas are maintained; this link may help you to better understand what's happening.


BBC News - The new UK-EU deal at a glance -

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdy3r6q9mgo

You think quotas are always met, do you?


Youth experience scheme

The government says such a scheme "could see young people able to work and travel freely in Europe again" but would be "capped and time-limited"

What BS that is, there are thousands each week coming illegally, which is not mentioned. Not one boat is turned back but escorted or picked up in the Channel.

Green Man wrote:
Not one boat is turned back but escorted or picked up in the Channel.

But - as usual - you have no evidence/links to confirm this!

Oh dear, you can Google it. Do you own research.

You tell people "Google is your friend"!