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TOPIC: You Gov Poll
#260226
Lester Pidgeon

You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
Surprising predictions for Reform UK...


www.breakingthenews.net/news/details/64353950
 
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#260233
Jo

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
One of the most recent episodes of Question Time was from Fleetwood. Blackpool North and Fleetwood was apparently gained by Labour in the 2024 general election. But in the 2025 council elections, Fleetwood East and Fleetwood West & Cleveleys West were won by Reform.

members.parliament.uk/constituency/3919/election/422
www.wyre.gov.uk/directory-record/2401/la...uncil-elections-2025

Zia Yusuf of Reform was one of the people on the panel. He made statements that often got him applause but he would not be pinned down on how Reform was going to achieve its promises, e.g. cutting tax and cutting spending. At one point he said that most of the people coming over in small boats were young men "of fighting age". Darren Jones of Labour, who's apparently Chief Secretary to the Treasury, said he knew that it wasn't the done thing to disagree with a Question Time audience but said he'd been to see people who'd come over in boats and said this was untrue, that most of them were women and children. Cue a woman in the audience screwing up her face as if to say "that can't be true".

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002df3f

 
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#260239
Green Man

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
Even if Reform did win, Farage has said there will be no mass deportation and loony left wing lawyer's won't let the UK leave the ECHR.

People need to stop believing voting change things. Even Tories are backing Labour over welfare cuts. Both parties have lost control over the borders and two tier policing.
 
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#260244
Jo

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
If people are seriously considering voting in Reform at the next general election, I suspect it will because they haven't given much thought to whether Reform has explained how it's planning to achieve its promises and whether its promises are actually achievable and properly costed. The argument that "Reform couldn't be worse than the mainstream parties, so we might as well give them a try" doesn't seem to consider that Reform could be worse than Liz Truss. And if they caused chaos, they wouldn't be resigning en masse after a few weeks but would be ensconced for four years.
 
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#260245
Green Man

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
I have no idea how Reform can be worse than Labour and Tories.
 
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#260246
Lester Pidgeon

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
Green Man wrote:
I have no idea

Thanks for sharing that! Reform - in this decade - will have little say, relevance, influence - in UK politics.

A lack of Infrastructure, funding and major players will see to that. Major changes aren't made overnight.
 
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#260252
hedda

Re:You Gov Poll 2 Weeks ago  
I still think magic grandpa Jeremy Corbyn if he started a new left party would give Reform and Labour a real run for their money.

I think he'd attract 100,000S of disaffected Labour voters.

i wonder if he still plans to. He's getting on a bit. Needs to find a young successor.
 
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#260257
Green Man

Re:You Gov Poll 1 Week, 6 Days ago  
Corbyn is still toxic, people still remember hid admiration for the IRA.
 
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#260260
Green Man

Re:You Gov Poll 1 Week, 6 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
Corbyn is still toxic, people still remember hid admiration for the IRA.

*His*
 
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#260261
hedda

Re:You Gov Poll 1 Week, 6 Days ago  
Green Man wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Corbyn is still toxic, people still remember hid admiration for the IRA.

*His*


possibly but does anyone even remember the IRA ?

I do as they killed a good friend of mine with the Harrods bomb which went of as I sat in Hyde Park in the Sun.
I heard the horrible dull thud and saw black smoke filling the air over Knightsbridge.

He was a young reporter who got wind of drama happening and rushed outside and too close to the car bomb.

Many many years later I met the new NSW Police Commissioner & his wife at a Sydney theater opening. He had been hired as a clean skin from the UK to try and root out NSW Police entrenched corruption.

The Commissioner's wife had been a young WPC and was in Knightsbridge and rushed to Harrods. Her partner got too close to the car bomb like my friend and was killed.

The new Police Commissioner, chatting to someone else looked at us two tearing up and must have wondered what on earth was going on.

So I hate the IRA but remember both The Queen and Prince Charles met the IRA and shook hands with them even though they killed Mountbatten and those poor kids.
 
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#260264
Green Man

Re:You Gov Poll 1 Week, 6 Days ago  
Possibly but does anyone even remember the IRA ?

Yes, I do. I remember running home after a Saturday with rounds flying around like birds in the sky. It was the before I left Ireland for America, it was the last straw for my family.

You have to remember the IRA have never gone away, Hedda, it's the lone wolves you have to watch.
 
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#260268
Lester Pidgeon

Re:You Gov Poll 1 Week, 6 Days ago  
People in Northern Ireland - including republicans - know that the £1 billion subsidy (paid ever MONTH) is the only thing that keeps the province going!

As a result, it's becoming less likely that even IRA sympathisers will now support armed aggression. The UK pays more to NI - than it did to the EU, before Brexit.



Northern Ireland fiscal balance - Wikipedia share.google/8sE4rQ54fgvyZnujN
 
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