His Law and Order plans are exactly what they should be, appealing to people foolish enough to vote Reform. Promise everything, deliver nothing (if he ever has to). I'm still astonished nobody has accused Starmer of a historical sexual crime ("you will be believed - even if you're only after money"). The same applies to Farage surely (I bet there are a dozen Tories working on that at this second).

It's very annoying that Farage is invited on so many TV shows including the useless BBC when his party has a lousy 4 MPs most who including Farage are hardly spotted in their constituencies.

Why not the Greens who also have 4 or the Liberal Democrats who have 72 ?

And for that matter it's time they started treating Jeremy Corbyn as a serious contender when over 120K citizens have already signed up online to join his new party. I reckon he might rock the sox of Labour.

And yes the Laws of Karma decree Keir Starmer must pay a price for his mendacity especially the "believe the victim" mantra.

Wonder when Weasel Streeting will stab him in the back and takeover?

JK2006 wrote:
His Law and Order plans are exactly what they should be, appealing to people foolish enough to vote Reform. Promise everything, deliver nothing (if he ever has to). I'm still astonished nobody has accused Starmer of a historical sexual crime ("you will be believed - even if you're only after money"). The same applies to Farage surely (I bet there are a dozen Tories working on that at this second).

Still time for Starmer. Despite him being the dullest man that ever existed. He could visit a cemetery and ruin the lively atmosphere. However, life has a habit of biting people on the derrière.

Yes there is no evidence base that harsher punishments - overall - lead to lower crime rates; and quite a lot that countries who take a more rehabilitative, compassionate approach see lower crime rates.

But this won't trouble the UK's Reform champions: they have the same limited zero-sum thinking of the MAGA crowd.

However, sadly, millions will fall for it...

Wyot wrote:
Yes there is no evidence base that harsher punishments - overall - lead to lower crime rates; and quite a lot that countries who take a more rehabilitative, compassionate approach see lower crime rates.

But this won't trouble the UK's Reform champions: they have the same limited zero-sum thinking of the MAGA crowd.

However, sadly, millions will fall for it...

Decades go I had a Danish pal who tried to rob a Danish bank. Rang the manager and said he had a comrade armed with a gun opposite trained on the bank.

He'd rented a flat opposite and propped up a store dummy with a broom for a rifle but alas, it had fallen over as the manger said "your friend has collapsed".

During his 2 year jail sentence which he described as like a 2 star motel he was encouraged to work on an occupation for when he left jail and did so, becoming Denmark's biggest video importer.

Downing Street Cat wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
His Law and Order plans are exactly what they should be, appealing to people foolish enough to vote Reform. Promise everything, deliver nothing (if he ever has to). I'm still astonished nobody has accused Starmer of a historical sexual crime ("you will be believed - even if you're only after money"). The same applies to Farage surely (I bet there are a dozen Tories working on that at this second).

Still time for Starmer. Despite him being the dullest man that ever existed. He could visit a cemetery and ruin the lively atmosphere. However, life has a habit of biting people on the derrière.

Sounds like everyone in the legal profession. Barristers are terrible liars also, they have to lie to get their clients lesser prison time. It was probably liars who created the "mental health" excuse in court.

30 years ago the sentence for murder was 15 years, now it is 20-30 years, but there are a lot more murders When people commit serious crime, they are not thinking of what will happen if they get caught.

robbiex wrote:
30 years ago the sentence for murder was 15 years, now it is 20-30 years, but there are a lot more murders When people commit serious crime, they are not thinking of what will happen if they get caught.

I agree robbie that no one looking to commit murder weighs up whether they serve 15 or 30 years if caught; but it is NOT true that murder rates have risen compared to 15 years ago.

While there has been a recent increase in homicides, the overall rate remains lower than it was in the early 2000s. Specifically, the number of homicides fell significantly between 2002/03 and 2013/14, and though there has been a rise in recent years, it is still below the peak seen in the early 2000s.

Google AI (apologies).

But this is the point isn't it.

Little wankers like Farage do everything they can - with the assistance of an amoral media - to convince us that we are far more likely to be murdered now.

And probably by someone who has just come over on a boat.

And millions believe it...