Only because I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good and decent man as illustrated by his support for the Palestinian cause for years - which is NOT anti-semitic, despite what many said when destroying him in the media. People like Starmer and Trump deserve everything that will happen to them for allowing this to happen in GAZA and even aiding and abetting it. I'm sorry, and I will disagree with most of the Your Party policies (I suspect) but as a human being I think Corbyn has been the only UK politician to deserve my support for his courage and decency.

UK and Ireland are both too far gone to be salvaged, not even Deform will do anything. Farage will hand over the baton to Muhammed Yusuf if Reform wins.

I wonder if Ben Habib forms a party with Rupert Lowe. If UK is going to be full of parties with no overall majority, then again, most PMs follow orders from WEF.

He stands by what he believes, and he isn't afraid of the media like that pussy in Downing Street. Not me btw. lol.

Bravo !

If anything he will surely make politics interesting again.

Polling shows Reforms voters much prefer Corbyn's Your Party to Labour.

JK2006 wrote:
Only because I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good and decent man as illustrated by his support for the Palestinian cause for years - which is NOT anti-semitic, despite what many said when destroying him in the media. People like Starmer and Trump deserve everything that will happen to them for allowing this to happen in GAZA and even aiding and abetting it. I'm sorry, and I will disagree with most of the Your Party policies (I suspect) but as a human being I think Corbyn has been the only UK politician to deserve my support for his courage and decency.

I don't think his support for the Palestinian cause indicates his decency or otherwise.
It is just an opinion shared by heroes and tossers alike.

hedda wrote:
Polling shows Reforms voters much prefer Corbyn's Your Party to Labour.

So, it's more of the Fruit & Nut Party. Corbyn has short-changed himself by accepting Deform members.

Green Man wrote:
hedda wrote:
Polling shows Reforms voters much prefer Corbyn's Your Party to Labour.

So, it's more of the Fruit & Nut Party. Corbyn has short-changed himself by accepting Deform members.

so who would you vote for?

hedda wrote:
Green Man wrote:
hedda wrote:
Polling shows Reforms voters much prefer Corbyn's Your Party to Labour.

So, it's more of the Fruit & Nut Party. Corbyn has short-changed himself by accepting Deform members.

so who would you vote for?

There is not much to choose from, so I will probably stick to the Monster Raving Loony Party or some independent candidate. We are only cared about when it's election time where you might meet your local MP in person for the first time.

Most of the time, they play the Invisible Man/Woman, you might get some half-arsed response or a "nothing I can do" seems to be their favourite reply.

Albert Steptoe getting Tories, neo-cons, and Deforms is comical.

One name mooted for the new party is The Justice Party.Sounds OK. Will they be able to get the members to front up with 5 quid a month which filled Labour's coffers?

Corbyn is 79 so will be 81 come next election though he does appear to be fairly agile & on the ball unlike Trump and the doddery Biden.

I reckon Zarah Sultana will be the leader with Corbyn fronting rallies etc which he does well.

Such a shame there is not compulsory, proportional representation and preferential voting in the UK like in Oz which always produces a winner with over 50% and the right to say they have a mandate.

hedda wrote:
One name mooted for the new party is The Justice Party.Sounds OK. Will they be able to get the members to front up with 5 quid a month which filled Labour's coffers?

Corbyn is 79 so will be 81 come next election though he does appear to be fairly agile & on the ball unlike Trump and the doddery Biden.

I reckon Zarah Sultana will be the leader with Corbyn fronting rallies etc which he does well.

Such a shame there is not compulsory, proportional representation and preferential voting in the UK like in Oz which always produces a winner with over 50% and the right to say they have a mandate.

By then, Starmer would have filled his quota of boat people, and no doubt another pandemic to delay the G.E.

Jeremy Steptoe banged on about lockdown whilst having dinner parties. The lockdown bullshit is still fresh in a lot of people's minds. Whilst his brother was anti-lockdown but at the same time accepting bribes to be pro-vaxxed and lockdown when he was filmed to prankster YouTubers.

www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/antivaxxer...a-reps-b2178104.html


twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1346191752030519305


www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/j...johnson-b735766.html

None of the claptrap previously claimed about Jeremy Corbyn will work this time.

What he doesn't have this time is the vicious vipers of the Labour Party working actively against him to undermine his leadership and that includes Starmer.

Also completely ignored {especially by current Labour bigwigs)is that Starmer won the leadership and then the election by promising to implement Corbyn crafted policies which were immediately dumped upon election.

And as Corbyn received a bigger vote than Starmer twice this is highly relevant.

There is a coming political tsunami and the lack lustre Tories and current Tory lite Labour will be pounded.

Labour and the Conservatives were for a time but not for all time.

I will never forgive nor forget the Covid bollocks.

Interesting but again, the Fruit and Nut Party will not stand by the common man and woman.

JK2006 wrote:
Only because I think Jeremy Corbyn is a good and decent man as illustrated by his support for the Palestinian cause for years - which is NOT anti-semitic, despite what many said when destroying him in the media. People like Starmer and Trump deserve everything that will happen to them for allowing this to happen in GAZA and even aiding and abetting it. I'm sorry, and I will disagree with most of the Your Party policies (I suspect) but as a human being I think Corbyn has been the only UK politician to deserve my support for his courage and decency.

But you can't join a party based on just one specific issue, you have to believe in the overall philosophy, surely?

For me it's absolutely incredible how the Labour Party could swing instantly from someone like Corbyn with such deep held long time principles, perhaps he's even too rigidly principled, to someone like Starmer who is clearly an empty vessel with no principles or beliefs on anything whatsoever. I'll never understand how they handed Starmer the leadership after Corbyn, why couldn't they see him for what he was. His uselessness and total vileness gets worse by the day and everyone is thinking it, even Labour voters. Corbyn was considered dangerous by many if he had won an electgion in 2017 or 2019 but I say Starmer is a very dangerous and far more malignant person for the future wellbeing of this country. I don't support Corbyn in any way but do respect he's a principled politician.

How many people in the Labour parliamentary party would secretly love to defect to Corbyn's Your Party right now? Richard Burgon comes to mind as a starter.

There's still a lot of love for Neil Kinnock in the Labour Party, even PM Jim Callaghan, but there is no love and there will be no love for Starmer at all from future Labour. None.

Rich Starmer won the leadership and then the election by promising tp implement Corbyn's 8 point plan.

Then he reneged.

Cannot understand how he thought this acceptable but I can only assume the plan was to seize power on any amount of lies so Starmer & Co could please vested interests.

Not yet confirmed but claims over 660,000 have signed on to support the new party.

Perhaps in 2029 the battle will be between Reform and Your Party as to who forms government.

May even be a coalition.

Bearing in mind Harold Wilson's "7 days.. long time" etc.

hedda wrote:
Not yet confirmed but claims over 660,000 have signed on to support the new party.

Perhaps in 2029 the battle will be between Reform and Your Party as to who forms government.

May even be a coalition.

Bearing in mind Harold Wilson's "7 days.. long time" etc.

Coalition? What a thought it will be neo-cons working along with other neo-cons. What another pig trough.

It will be like the ending of Animal Farm which are the pigs and are the humans. Why would anyone want to be with Deform or the Fruit & Nut Party?

hedda wrote:
Rich Starmer won the leadership and then the election by promising tp implement Corbyn's 8 point plan.

Then he reneged.

Cannot understand how he thought this acceptable but I can only assume the plan was to seize power on any amount of lies so Starmer & Co could please vested interests.


Oh yes I understand how Starmer shapeshifted Hedda. I think Starmer is one of those people who not only lies quite easily but he's one of those people who actually believes his own lies again and again. His words, his promises, they all count for next to nothing to anybody and everybody. He is treating this country with utter contempt as well as his own party voters, what's left of them.

Do we think those 660,000 plus people now registered to Corbyn's new party are automatically all votes now taken from Labour next time? That's huge. But can Corbyn's new party actually manage to stand candidates in most of the hundreds of constituencies at the next election in the first place? Corbyn is clearly out to hole the LAbour ship below the water line and sink it and I think he may achieve this, or be a great help in a major pincer movement.

It's remarkable to think that Starmer and Labour are probably as finished electorally just as much as Sunak and the Tories were in early 2024, and it can only get worse still. The couple of years of Tory purgatory were bad enough, a possible even worse Labour one twice as long is grim indeed.

Listening to the "Not Another One" podcast with Steve Richards and Tim Montgomerie a few episodes ago they made the point on how the Tories now see their best chance to recover as being the premature death of Nigel Farage before the next election, that's how desperate they are. Perhaps Labour will be thinking likewise with Corbyn now too. For me, the death of both these versions of the Labour and Tory parties can't come fast enough. I hope Farage and Corbyn remain healthy and full of vitality. I won't say the same for Starmer though!

Rich wrote:
hedda wrote:
Rich Starmer won the leadership and then the election by promising tp implement Corbyn's 8 point plan.

Then he reneged.

Cannot understand how he thought this acceptable but I can only assume the plan was to seize power on any amount of lies so Starmer & Co could please vested interests.


Oh yes I understand how Starmer shapeshifted Hedda. I think Starmer is one of those people who not only lies quite easily but he's one of those people who actually believes his own lies again and again. His words, his promises, they all count for next to nothing to anybody and everybody. He is treating this country with utter contempt as well as his own party voters, what's left of them.

Do we think those 660,000 plus people now registered to Corbyn's new party are automatically all votes now taken from Labour next time? That's huge. But can Corbyn's new party actually manage to stand candidates in most of the hundreds of constituencies at the next election in the first place? Corbyn is clearly out to hole the LAbour ship below the water line and sink it and I think he may achieve this, or be a great help in a major pincer movement.

It's remarkable to think that Starmer and Labour are probably as finished electorally just as much as Sunak and the Tories were in early 2024, and it can only get worse still. The couple of years of Tory purgatory were bad enough, a possible even worse Labour one twice as long is grim indeed.

Listening to the "Not Another One" podcast with Steve Richards and Tim Montgomerie a few episodes ago they made the point on how the Tories now see their best chance to recover as being the premature death of Nigel Farage before the next election, that's how desperate they are. Perhaps Labour will be thinking likewise with Corbyn now too. For me, the death of both these versions of the Labour and Tory parties can't come fast enough. I hope Farage and Corbyn remain healthy and full of vitality. I won't say the same for Starmer though!

I do wonder if Advance UK will gain any traction as they are they breakaway Deform Party? UKIP still have supporters, which boggles the mind.