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The Labour Party needs to admit the Online Safety Bill is not about protecting kids online, more about silencing what views the public has against the mainstream and government.
Kids are so tech-savvy these days, they can pretty much do anything online, even become millionaires at 16 via crypto. The government and Establishment do underestimate kids' knowledge of computers and tech.
When we had computers in the 80s and 90s, we were playing video games on them, not using them to start enterprises like Steven Bartlett did when he was a teenager.
If app stores banned VPNs, there would be other ways to get VPNs downloaded onto systems. I am sure newsagents, sex shops, dating apps, the Chinamen in duffel coats and holdalls going around pubs flogging pirate porn DVDs, brothels, and XXX cinemas - if any are around these days. No doubt, welcome the restriction of porn online.
When Labour argue suicide and self-harming, it becomes a grey area, people will do themselves in when they want to. The Establishment made many people kill themselves during lockdown. I bet they will flinch if that gets brought up in a public arena.
Sadly, there is no cure for depression, only tablets to sort out the mood swings and chemical imbalances. Many use the net to find support groups that are catered for them, that have not been set up by some suit behind a desk. Like most people, I have lost people by suicide, no matter how much you tell them they are loved, cared for, and you do what you can to help them out, no matter what, they will do themselves unless they see sense.
One of my sisters tried to OD on herself when her ex-boyfriend walked out on her after a day shift when she was 17. He came back to retrieve some more clothes and found her on the floor with blister packs and bottles of sambuca. She was lucky to survive when he did some CPR and put her in a recovery position, and called for an ambulance. It was touch-and-go if she would survive; she did, but she was lucky, unlike others I knew. She didn't need the Internet to take that drastic action.
We read Romeo & Juliet when we were 10 in school, and even saw a stage production at that age. I think a few of us dozed off until the suicide scenes started, as we knew it was time to go home. When I saw Aida and Madama Butterfly in London, I doubt there was a dry eye in the theatres.
I have never been on the Dark Web, and I don't want to, but what I have been told can be just a marketplace for drugs and guns. The war on drugs has pretty much been won by the perps and users.
If we take an analogy in real life I think that just because you can buy guns through underground criminal markets doesn't mean it is pointless not allowing their sale in Sainsburys.
It is terrible that - up to now - a 12 year old can just click on a button saying they are 18 and watch content to make them believe sex is about spitting on, slapping about and choking their nice new girlfriend...
Green Man wrote: The Labour Party needs to admit the Online Safety Bill is not about protecting kids online, more about silencing what views the public has against the mainstream and government.
Kids are so tech-savvy these days, they can pretty much do anything online, even become millionaires at 16 via crypto. The government and Establishment do underestimate kids' knowledge of computers and tech.
When we had computers in the 80s and 90s, we were playing video games on them, not using them to start enterprises like Steven Bartlett did when he was a teenager.
If app stores banned VPNs, there would be other ways to get VPNs downloaded onto systems. I am sure newsagents, sex shops, dating apps, the Chinamen in duffel coats and holdalls going around pubs flogging pirate porn DVDs, brothels, and XXX cinemas - if any are around these days. No doubt, welcome the restriction of porn online.
When Labour argue suicide and self-harming, it becomes a grey area, people will do themselves in when they want to. The Establishment made many people kill themselves during lockdown. I bet they will flinch if that gets brought up in a public arena.
Sadly, there is no cure for depression, only tablets to sort out the mood swings and chemical imbalances. Many use the net to find support groups that are catered for them, that have not been set up by some suit behind a desk. Like most people, I have lost people by suicide, no matter how much you tell them they are loved, cared for, and you do what you can to help them out, no matter what, they will do themselves unless they see sense.
One of my sisters tried to OD on herself when her ex-boyfriend walked out on her after a day shift when she was 17. He came back to retrieve some more clothes and found her on the floor with blister packs and bottles of sambuca. She was lucky to survive when he did some CPR and put her in a recovery position, and called for an ambulance. It was touch-and-go if she would survive; she did, but she was lucky, unlike others I knew. She didn't need the Internet to take that drastic action.
We read Romeo & Juliet when we were 10 in school, and even saw a stage production at that age. I think a few of us dozed off until the suicide scenes started, as we knew it was time to go home. When I saw Aida and Madama Butterfly in London, I doubt there was a dry eye in the theatres.
I have never been on the Dark Web, and I don't want to, but what I have been told can be just a marketplace for drugs and guns. The war on drugs has pretty much been won by the perps and users.
Historically, social contagion comes in waves, though I am not sure why?
Ban one, and another will strike. Censorship might be a good thing if only common sense was used.
Honey wrote: Green Man wrote: The Labour Party needs to admit the Online Safety Bill is not about protecting kids online, more about silencing what views the public has against the mainstream and government.
Kids are so tech-savvy these days, they can pretty much do anything online, even become millionaires at 16 via crypto. The government and Establishment do underestimate kids' knowledge of computers and tech.
When we had computers in the 80s and 90s, we were playing video games on them, not using them to start enterprises like Steven Bartlett did when he was a teenager.
If app stores banned VPNs, there would be other ways to get VPNs downloaded onto systems. I am sure newsagents, sex shops, dating apps, the Chinamen in duffel coats and holdalls going around pubs flogging pirate porn DVDs, brothels, and XXX cinemas - if any are around these days. No doubt, welcome the restriction of porn online.
When Labour argue suicide and self-harming, it becomes a grey area, people will do themselves in when they want to. The Establishment made many people kill themselves during lockdown. I bet they will flinch if that gets brought up in a public arena.
Sadly, there is no cure for depression, only tablets to sort out the mood swings and chemical imbalances. Many use the net to find support groups that are catered for them, that have not been set up by some suit behind a desk. Like most people, I have lost people by suicide, no matter how much you tell them they are loved, cared for, and you do what you can to help them out, no matter what, they will do themselves unless they see sense.
One of my sisters tried to OD on herself when her ex-boyfriend walked out on her after a day shift when she was 17. He came back to retrieve some more clothes and found her on the floor with blister packs and bottles of sambuca. She was lucky to survive when he did some CPR and put her in a recovery position, and called for an ambulance. It was touch-and-go if she would survive; she did, but she was lucky, unlike others I knew. She didn't need the Internet to take that drastic action.
We read Romeo & Juliet when we were 10 in school, and even saw a stage production at that age. I think a few of us dozed off until the suicide scenes started, as we knew it was time to go home. When I saw Aida and Madama Butterfly in London, I doubt there was a dry eye in the theatres.
I have never been on the Dark Web, and I don't want to, but what I have been told can be just a marketplace for drugs and guns. The war on drugs has pretty much been won by the perps and users.
Historically, social contagion comes in waves, though I am not sure why?
Ban one, and another will strike. Censorship might be a good thing if only common sense was used.
It moves underground like The Probition.
Kids will always find new ways, like getting an older sibling to download porn for them.
Wyot wrote: If we take an analogy in real life I think that just because you can buy guns through underground criminal markets doesn't mean it is pointless not allowing their sale in Sainsburys.
It is terrible that - up to now - a 12 year old can just click on a button saying they are 18 and watch content to make them believe sex is about spitting on, slapping about and choking their nice new girlfriend...
Green Man wrote: Wyot wrote: If we take an analogy in real life I think that just because you can buy guns through underground criminal markets doesn't mean it is pointless not allowing their sale in Sainsburys.
It is terrible that - up to now - a 12 year old can just click on a button saying they are 18 and watch content to make them believe sex is about spitting on, slapping about and choking their nice new girlfriend...
Long overdue.
Where did guns come from?
Why is this guy wearing a mask in front of a microphone in a room all by himself in 2025 as if it was 2020? Why is he hiding?
I mostly agree with your opening comment by the way. I've had a paid VPN for ages as part of my antivirus package. Nobody will be censoring me as a law abiding responsible adult.
A Tory policy completed by Labour. It just goes to prove why both parties need to go into the dustbin. This act has already been used to hide innocent comments mocking the lack of babies named Keir in the past year on X. Why is Musk putting up with that one, is he even aware? He seems quiet.
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