A common theme these days in the UK, and a worrying one - with many places (like Paignton/link) no longer popular holiday destinations.

With elderly populations, few industries (fishing and tourism, virtually gone) and little to do - except walk along a dilapidated prom.

Often the large Victorian hotels are converted into DSS bedsits - and people feel there's better holiday value abroad.

Charity shops/empty ones - are common on the High Street; others have been replaced by the growing number of barber shops.


www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2089712/uk-sea...-neglected-abandoned

Most seaside towns were declining in the 1990s and a domino effect started. Oldies moved to coast to retire but sadly die. A lot of councils thought it be a good idea for addicts to move to the coast to get clean. Sadly many brought their friends with them and dealers saw an opportunity. I have been offered drugs in broad daylight in Weymouth.

Package holidays have always been cheaper and continue to do so. I have booked a package holiday in Latvia for a whole month, it's still couple of hundred pounds cheaper than a month's rent for what tenants pay on average for a flat.

I was in Torquay last week for week, it looked like Coney Island, but there's still tourism there, only because it's school holidays. People told me it's normally dead.

Staycations are being phased out again due to prices. I hate to say it why but it's on people's minds, why pay for hotels when migrants live in them for free?

There's never been many jobs in seaside towns, apart from care. Most hospitality staff are either family members or from overseas with the parent companies are sometimes located.

I have worked in the hospitality sector it's a tough industry, with lot's of turnover of staff.

If people can't drive, there's not enough jobs in a town you are pretty stuffed, to get off the dole. I do know companies take dolers on for work experience but there's no job at the end of it. Companies exploit the free labour they get from schemes.

Charity shops are becoming expensive now and I can't see many of them surviving the next 10 years. It's now pretty much full of fast fashion and the men section is just cast offs from old dead men or Primark brands.

Records are no doubt taken by staff so it's only the crap on the shop floor, not forgetting over priced. I saw a copy of
Paul Siebel - Jack-Knife Gypsy for £20. Like people remember him, if it was a few quid I would have bought it. What puts people off charities is their practices and CEO salaries.

Staithes, Burnham-on-Crouch, Whitby, Crail, Walmer, Hove, Shoreham, Eastbourne, Cromer - are among the exceptions


Just like Ryde and Cowes on the Isle of Wight - where Queen Victoria died in Osborne House, which is open to the public.


Inland there's so many; the Cotswolds for example - with Stowe-on-the-Wold, Bourton, Moreton; with Cheltenham and Cirencester further on.

Lester Pidgeon wrote:
Staithes, Burnham-on-Crouch, Whitby, Crail, Walmer, Hove, Shoreham, Eastbourne, Cromer - are among the exceptions


Just like Ryde and Cowes on the Isle of Wight - where Queen Victoria died in Osborne House, which is open to the public.


Inland there's so many; the Cotswolds for example - with Stowe-on-the-Wold, Bourton, Moreton; with Cheltenham and Cirencester further on.

Exceptions are because they are the well-off parts of the country with a lot of wealthy people. The Cotswolds is only a short drive from me, but it's NOT all picturesque at times. There is a lot of litter around these days, tourists not respecting people's homes, driveways and property, and there is more traffic.I have seen a fair bit of damaged brickwork caused by reckless drivers or vandals wanting a memento.

The Isle of Wight is beautiful, but there is still a lot of crime there, mostly is down to drugs, like most crime in any town and city but there is a lot of domestic violence, which does not always get reported, like male rape.

Green Man wrote:
The Cotswolds is only a short drive from me, but it's NOT all picturesque at times.

Nowhere is!

However, the Cotswolds - largely developed a couple of thousand years ago, by the Romans - has retained its classy and historic veneer.

Transversed by Fosse Way - one of the longest Roman roads, still carrying large volumes of traffic day and night.

Villas can still be visited along the route.




Follow the Roman road, explore the Fosse Way

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Most people know Fosse Way especially if you live in the West Country.

We were taught about Fosse Way in infant school.

Green Man w⅘rote:
We were taught about Fosse Way in infant school.

Resume your reading then, to discover the better places to visit in our beautiful and vibrant country - instead of frequenting hell holes.....

Remember what our country has given the world - say, in terms of political structuring, legislation, health care etc.

Most countries are still run on the basis of Magna Carte - the blue print for the US constitution. Written here, 1215(?)

Although the country is struggling (National Debt/c£3T), there's always a great option - freedom. Leave, if you don't like it.

Sounds a bit racist, telling an Irish immigrant to move out of the UK.

Do you have a sign saying No Irish x Black and dogs?

Lester Pidgeon wrote:
Remember what our country has given the world - say, in terms of political structuring, legislation, health care etc.

Most countries are still run on the basis of Magna Carte - the blue print for the US constitution. Written here, 1215(?)

Although the country is struggling (National Debt/c£3T), there's always a great option - freedom. Leave, if you don't like it.


I'd like to know why so many immigrants are running away from their own muslim nations including those with sharia law into the West including the UK and are then trying to bring all those aspects of the places they've left behind, including sharia, into the western nations they have chosen to live within.

Do Brits in Saudi and Dubai go there hoping to set up boozers and Christian churches, no.

Green Man wrote:
Sounds a bit racist, telling an Irish immigrant to move out of the UK


But you think the UK has only 4 years to go!?

Rich wrote:
Lester Pidgeon wrote:
Remember what our country has given the world - say, in terms of political structuring, legislation, health care etc.

Most countries are still run on the basis of Magna Carte - the blue print for the US constitution. Written here, 1215(?)

Although the country is struggling (National Debt/c£3T), there's always a great option - freedom. Leave, if you don't like it.


I'd like to know why so many immigrants are running away from their own muslim nations including those with sharia law into the West including the UK and are then trying to bring all those aspects of the places they've left behind, including sharia, into the western nations they have chosen to live within.

Do Brits in Saudi and Dubai go there hoping to set up boozers and Christian churches, no.

Also, have you noticed it's nearly the men leaving their home countries and coming over? They let the women suffer, real men stay home and fight and make sure their wives and girlfriends are moved to safer areas, even to other countries.

Rich wrote:
[quote]Lester Pidgeon wrote:



I'd like to know why so many immigrants are running away from their own muslim nations including those with sharia law into the West including the UK and are then trying to bring all those aspects of the places they've left behind, including sharia, into the western nations they have chosen to live within.



I think you first need to establish if this is true Rich?

Green Man wrote:
[quote]Rich wrote:
[quote]Lester Pidgeon wrote:


Also, have you noticed it's nearly the men leaving their home countries and coming over? They let the women suffer, real men stay home and fight and make sure their wives and girlfriends are moved to safer areas, even to other countries.

Do you have the numbers to hand GM telling us how many of these young men have wives or families that they have deserted?

Wyot wrote:
[quote]Green Man wrote:
[quote]Rich wrote:
Lester Pidgeon wrote:


Also, have you noticed it's nearly the men leaving their home countries and coming over? They let the women suffer, real men stay home and fight and make sure their wives and girlfriends are moved to safer areas, even to other countries.

Do you have the numbers to hand GM telling us how many of these young men have wives or families that they have deserted?

Don't need to just go on YT and watch the hotel audits on migrant hotels, there are some women but in some hotels but it's 97% fighting age men who love smoking illegal Top Gun ciggies. There are dozens of auditors going up and down the hotels one by one. Similar to the border crossings in the US, it's nearly all men entering the US illegally.

I've heard the most frightening prospect discussed on a mainstream discussion within the last month from serious minded people who have pondered whether we could be in far bigger trouble than we realise with these "fighting age men" who could in their many hundreds and thousands be sleepers for an almighty terror attack on the scale of 7th October in Israel by Hammas, but on the UK, possibly rising up and killing appalling numbers of us randomly with all manner of weapons from knives, machetes, crossbows and firearms, or even just cars and trucks. I would have found this farfetched not so long ago but it feels like such a scenario is becoming ever more plausible.

Then what if this played out for real and just 500 of these men (out of the tens of thousands) simultaneously were "woken" to create nationwide carnage at will. We need to face up to these unpalatable prospects now that this Labour Government and the last disgraceful Tory one have both totally failed in the No1 most serious and solemn duty of any national government to fully protect the state's national security and its citizens within. Will it really take something so heinous and off the scale awful for this political class to finally awaken?

What the political class has allowed to happen to this country over the past few years is criminal in my opinion and we should have the ability to prosecute politicians up to the highest level for grievously damaging the fabric of our nation and the mismanagement and deceit that goes with it with promises made that not only never get fulfilled but the complete reverse happens instead.

The ballot box by itself is no longer effective or good enough to bring this current political class to account for their actions.



(yes Wyot, much of it is true, without a doubt - one example, a recent sharia law job advert was removed when highlighted by some in the media)

Wyot wrote:
how many of these young men have wives or families that they have deserted?


Completely impossible to determine

Lester Pidgeon wrote:
A common theme these days in the UK, and a worrying one - with many places (like Paignton/link) no longer popular holiday destinations.

With elderly populations, few industries (fishing and tourism, virtually gone) and little to do - except walk along a dilapidated prom.

Often the large Victorian hotels are converted into DSS bedsits - and people feel there's better holiday value abroad.

Charity shops/empty ones - are common on the High Street; others have been replaced by the growing number of barber shops.


www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2089712/uk-sea...-neglected-abandoned

At least your hair will look nice, Barney.

I hope this isn't Paignton you are describing? I have very fond memories of it.
I wonder if that little zoo is still there?

Green Man wrote:
Most seaside towns were declining in the 1990s and a domino effect started. Oldies moved to coast to retire but sadly die. A lot of councils thought it be a good idea for addicts to move to the coast to get clean. Sadly many brought their friends with them and dealers saw an opportunity. I have been offered drugs in broad daylight in Weymouth.

Package holidays have always been cheaper and continue to do so. I have booked a package holiday in Latvia for a whole month, it's still couple of hundred pounds cheaper than a month's rent for what tenants pay on average for a flat.

I was in Torquay last week for week, it looked like Coney Island, but there's still tourism there, only because it's school holidays. People told me it's normally dead.

Staycations are being phased out again due to prices. I hate to say it why but it's on people's minds, why pay for hotels when migrants live in them for free?

There's never been many jobs in seaside towns, apart from care. Most hospitality staff are either family members or from overseas with the parent companies are sometimes located.

I have worked in the hospitality sector it's a tough industry, with lot's of turnover of staff.

If people can't drive, there's not enough jobs in a town you are pretty stuffed, to get off the dole. I do know companies take dolers on for work experience but there's no job at the end of it. Companies exploit the free labour they get from schemes.

Charity shops are becoming expensive now and I can't see many of them surviving the next 10 years. It's now pretty much full of fast fashion and the men section is just cast offs from old dead men or Primark brands.

Records are no doubt taken by staff so it's only the crap on the shop floor, not forgetting over priced. I saw a copy of
Paul Siebel - Jack-Knife Gypsy for £20. Like people remember him, if it was a few quid I would have bought it. What puts people off charities is their practices and CEO salaries.

To be fair, Greenman, drugs have been on sale in broad daylight in Weymouth since at least 1978.

Rich wrote:
Lester Pidgeon wrote:
Remember what our country has given the world - say, in terms of political structuring, legislation, health care etc.

Most countries are still run on the basis of Magna Carte - the blue print for the US constitution. Written here, 1215(?)

Although the country is struggling (National Debt/c£3T), there's always a great option - freedom. Leave, if you don't like it.


I'd like to know why so many immigrants are running away from their own muslim nations including those with sharia law into the West including the UK and are then trying to bring all those aspects of the places they've left behind, including sharia, into the western nations they have chosen to live within.

Do Brits in Saudi and Dubai go there hoping to set up boozers and Christian churches, no.

We might if the government funded them for us. Why not?