With or without Nato and the United Nations - the time has come to stop this insanity - to free remaining hostages, push Israel out of Palestine and help rapid rebuilding and access for food and medicine.
We've paid billions in taxes for a military that FIRST protects humanity and SECOND protects this country.

JK2006 wrote:
With or without Nato and the United Nations - the time has come to stop this insanity - to free remaining hostages, push Israel out of Palestine and help rapid rebuilding and access for food and medicine.
We've paid billions in taxes for a military that FIRST protects humanity and SECOND protects this country.

Who are the "we" you are thinking about? The UK armed forces (what's left of them) going it alone? Now that is the height of INSANITY!

I thought with age came wisdom, not emotional naivety.

Yes ideally several others in the UN but sometimes you have to go it alone and this madness cannot continue. As we decided to stop Hitler's Nazis so we should end this madness, for the sake of humanity.

Off you go then, JK, lead by example!

Do we really need young men and women to be involved in another banker's and religious war?

Rich wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
With or without Nato and the United Nations - the time has come to stop this insanity - to free remaining hostages, push Israel out of Palestine and help rapid rebuilding and access for food and medicine.
We've paid billions in taxes for a military that FIRST protects humanity and SECOND protects this country.

Who are the "we" you are thinking about? The UK armed forces (what's left of them) going it alone? Now that is the height of INSANITY!

I thought with age came wisdom, not emotional naivety.

So you're quite happy watching a genocide of Muslims. Including children and babies. Of course you are.

Oh and furthermore Rich. White, Christian greedy fascists are the reason we have terrorism, migrants, wars, famine and destruction.

I can never understand why someone feels urging that we use our arrmed forces means we should join them.

JK2006 wrote:
Yes ideally several others in the UN but sometimes you have to go it alone and this madness cannot continue. As we decided to stop Hitler's Nazis so we should end this madness, for the sake of humanity.

I don't think even Jeremy Corbyn at his worst as PM would have ever dared choose or even merely contemplated such unilateral action.

I don't agree - at his best I think he WOULD have and I still believe the UN should have stepped in on Oct 8th to free the hostages. We call them PEACEKEEPERS Rich.

Green Man wrote:
Off you go then, JK, lead by example!

Do we really need young men and women to be involved in another banker's and religious war?


What JK is effectively saying here GM is he wants the getting on a bit Keir Starmer to send young British men, and possibly women, overseas to Gaza to very likely end up getting killed by Hamas terrorists at the same time as trying to protect the people of Gaza from one of the UK's closest international allies, Israel, and who knows even end up trading blows with them too.

Why hasn't Egypt or any of the other nearby muslim/arab countries intervened if they are all so disgusted by Israel attacking their close neighbours and in some cases friends in Gaza then?

Indeed I cannot understand why other countries haven't sent peacekeepers into Gaza (and the West Bank).

Rich wrote:
Green Man wrote:
Off you go then, JK, lead by example!

Do we really need young men and women to be involved in another banker's and religious war?


What JK is effectively saying here GM is he wants the getting on a bit Keir Starmer to send young British men, and possibly women, overseas to Gaza to very likely end up getting killed by Hamas terrorists at the same time as trying to protect the people of Gaza from one of the UK's closest international allies, Israel, and who knows even end up trading blows with them too.

Why hasn't Egypt or any of the other nearby muslim/arab countries intervened if they are all so disgusted by Israel attacking their close neighbours and in some cases friends in Gaza then?

Not only Egypt but also some of the following Tajikistan, Morocco, Turkey, Yemen, Pakistan, Bangladesh,
Algeria, Bangladesh, Kuwait, Yemen, Oman, UAE and Bahrain.

Yet, it's ok for the West to be the cannon fodder?

JK2006 wrote:
Indeed I cannot understand why other countries haven't sent peacekeepers into Gaza (and the West Bank).

You could go, JK. I am sure telling them to "Stop it" will carry some weight. Maybe Barney can lend them a football to play with.