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#38166
BR

Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
the first major sign of what we all feared was coming.

An Opposition Frontbencher arrested under ANTI TERROR laws ( seriously - you could not make this up ) and his office and paperwork seized.

If anyone out there thought I was hallucinating all the examples I have already given to you then maybe you will now believe me that we are living in very dangerous times.

Many people I know in the legal profession have suggested that if you run a business or if you blog in any way about politics or you are an investigative journalist/writer then you need to keep your work on SERVERS which are not kept at your premises. There are several companies who will look after data. This means when the Anti Terror Police knock ( and remember we are all terrorists now ) and take away your things then you wil be able to restart your work/business/research. Otherwise back up your work weekly and send a storage drive to a family member - and then rotate these every 4 weeks and re- write them.

Desperate times = desperate measures because BROWN and his state police are on the march.

We will now see whether CAMERON has the guts to stand up to BROWN about this issue.
 
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#38175
BR

Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7753763.stm

and JACQUI "NAZI" SMITH has just given a statement saying "Not us Guv" and smirking about the arrest.

Anyone who votes for Labour will be voting for a growing One Party State at the next election ( if it ever happens - Gordon has a track record for not liking elections )

If the public dont see what is going on now this Opposition spokesman has been arrested for doing his job then I dont know what will wake people up to the serious situation in UK politics.

Democracy is dead under Brown.
 
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#38177
Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
And what a co-incidence. Today Ian Blair leaves the Met (kicked out by the Tory Mayor).
 
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#38181
Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
You refer to "Brown and his State police", what is the evidence that the police are not an independent force and/or Brown orchestrated this?

Again there is an issue of you over-exaggerating, misrepresenting and showing a lack of comprehension.

Starting with a conclusion and cherry-picking information to confirm that conclusion is not the path to truth.

BTW your linky no work.. this should
 
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#38186
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
My sources are journalists and lawyers - and obviously I cant name them on a public forum and what happened to the Tory Minister yesterday is an example why.

I am not exaggerating at all. I do suggest you read LORD LEVY's biog - and you can then see "blow by blow" how this whole scam has been set up by Gordon Brown and his friends. It forced Tony Blair out - and now they are using the same tactics against the Tories.

George Osborne is the real target - and they are looking to see whether they can get away with a lesser minister first. They want to arrest Osborne. That would be a major blow to Cameron - they arrested both Tony Blair's best friend ( Levy ) and his chief of staff in order to pressurise him to go.

If you wish to read a newspaper which has already printed a bigger explanation of how this is playing out - read the Daily Mail London late edition page 2 comments. Though it just questions.

Remember Boris - Cameron knew about the impending arrest late yesterday morning - yet BROWN and SMITH claim to have "known nothing * try a Manuelgate accent with this - until last night ( cough !! )

We are living in very dangerous times - if the public dont wake up en masse soon it will be too late.
 
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#38188
Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
BR wrote:
My sources are journalists and lawyers - and obviously I cant name them on a public forum and what happened to the Tory Minister yesterday is an example why.

I am not exaggerating at all. I do suggest you read LORD LEVY's biog - and you can then see "blow by blow" how this whole scam has been set up by Gordon Brown and his friends. It forced Tony Blair out - and now they are using the same tactics against the Tories.

George Osborne is the real target - and they are looking to see whether they can get away with a lesser minister first. They want to arrest Osborne. That would be a major blow to Cameron - they arrested both Tony Blair's best friend ( Levy ) and his chief of staff in order to pressurise him to go.

If you wish to read a newspaper which has already printed a bigger explanation of how this is playing out - read the Daily Mail London late edition page 2 comments. Though it just questions.

Remember Boris - Cameron knew about the impending arrest late yesterday morning - yet BROWN and SMITH claim to have "known nothing * try a Manuelgate accent with this - until last night ( cough !! )

We are living in very dangerous times - if the public dont wake up en masse soon it will be too late.

So you have no evidence that the police are not an independent force and/or Brown orchestrated this or your evidence is special secret evidence only available to a select few?

I withdraw my "exaggerating" comment, as obviously you are just making things up, it was misplaced.
 
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#38191
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
Yes - I am making it up.....of course I am. I spend all day "telling stories" because I have nothing better to do.

I can assure you that I am involved in several Civil Liberties campaigns at this present time. It is a passion of mine !

These campaigns have meant that I have had to speak to leading politicians in Civil Rights etc.

I am fighting to remove what I see as a political angle to the current policing of the UK and the way in which false allegations are being used to control the media and public.

If you would like to discuss this with me in person I am quite happy to meet you at any time. I am hardly likely to publish "evidence" on a forum - yet I can assure you that if you read the LORD LEVY book you will be able to read something which backs up exactly what I am saying. If you had read his book you would not even be questioning me about this.

I cant make you read his book - but to say I am making this up without reading his book ( which I presented as one way to prove the link between Brown and the Police ) is in my view ignoring what I right.

I have given you a full and complex answer to your points yet you have dodged completely what I have said to you and resorted to "name calling" about me "making it all up".

Finally unlike you I worked for the Government in policy in the early 1990s for a short time - hence I understand from the inside the workings of politics and I have research degrees from UCL - LSE and Cambridge in Politics - therefore it is quite likely I may know something about what I am talking about - but HEY you probably think I am making up that fact as well !!
 
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#38192
Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
BR wrote:
Yes - I am making it up.....of course I am. I spend all day "telling stories" because I have nothing better to do.

I can assure you that I am involved in several Civil Liberties campaigns at this present time. It is a passion of mine !

These campaigns have meant that I have had to speak to leading politicians in Civil Rights etc.

I am fighting to remove what I see as a political angle to the current policing of the UK and the way in which false allegations are being used to control the media and public.

If you would like to discuss this with me in person I am quite happy to meet you at any time. I am hardly likely to publish "evidence" on a forum - yet I can assure you that if you read the LORD LEVY book you will be able to read something which backs up exactly what I am saying. If you had read his book you would not even be questioning me about this.

I cant make you read his book - but to say I am making this up without reading his book ( which I presented as one way to prove the link between Brown and the Police ) is in my view ignoring what I right.

I have given you a full and complex answer to your points yet you have dodged completely what I have said to you and resorted to "name calling" about me "making it all up".

Finally unlike you I worked for the Government in policy in the early 1990s for a short time - hence I understand from the inside the workings of politics and I have research degrees from UCL - LSE and Cambridge in Politics - therefore it is quite likely I may know something about what I am talking about - but HEY you probably think I am making up that fact as well !!

You didn't give a full and complex answer you suggest I read someone's blog. The plural of anecdote is not evidence.

You refuse to give any evidence on the grounds it's seemingly secret that only you and other special people are privy to.

You make quite extraordinary claims but never back them up with fact, is it really unreasonable to conclude you're making it up or only passing on other people's delusions?

The only basis to decide if you do know what you are talking about is evidence not which school you went to or past jobs.

Evidence BR, evidence.
 
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#38193
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090062...ion-leaks-media.html

The full story now in the press. It smells of KGB/STASI/SS not of the British Bobby. If anyone cant see that then they must be in total denial.
 
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#38200
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It's still not evidence of "Brown and his State police" is it?

Hysterical hyperbole from the Daily Mail is about as valid as your own wild conjecture.
 
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#38202
Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
zooloo wrote:
It's still not evidence of "Brown and his State police" is it?

Hysterical hyperbole from the Daily Mail is about as valid as your own wild conjecture.


In the words of the immortal Tony Blackburn .......... " Sennnnsational!"
 
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#38205
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
When you have TONY BENN saying it is STATE POLICE and many many others ( just read todays press ) it is clear that something is wrong at the heart of Browns Britain.

Even LABOUR politicians are hopping mad about this.

We urgently need an election so that the people of the UK can decide what sort of country they want.

Brown is unelected and his policies are not approved by the UK public or the Labour party.

We are in a very dangerous time for democracy.
 
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
BR wrote:
When you have TONY BENN saying it is STATE POLICE and many many others ( just read todays press ) it is clear that something is wrong at the heart of Browns Britain.

Even LABOUR politicians are hopping mad about this.

We urgently need an election so that the people of the UK can decide what sort of country they want.

Brown is unelected and his policies are not approved by the UK public or the Labour party.

We are in a very dangerous time for democracy.

You've actually become incoherent and frankly you're ranting.

You come over as being desperate for your strange views to be right and quite unable to deal with the fact they not.

I mean this with honest intentions if I say you are on the path to insanity and you really do need to get some sort of rational perspective.
 
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#38222
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Re:Tory frontbencher arrested by State Police 16 Years, 6 Months ago  
* picks oneself off the floor laughing hysterically

"insanity"

So the 500 people who have written roughly the same comment to the BBC Blog of Nick Robinson are insance.

The 65% of UK population who have decided not to vote Labour ( Today's latest opinion poll which gives Labour 30% of the total vote )

Tony Benn - David Cameron - the press ( all editors )

I am pleased to agree with all of these over this important issue.

A line has been stepped over this week by the POLICE. It has changed for the time being the relationship between Parliament and Police - and Government.

I may be able to delve deeper into the demise of UK democracy due to research - but the average person on the street is now fully aware how Anti Terror legislation is being used against them on a daily basis ( and not against Terrorists so it seems )

Shami Chakrabati warned that this was the road that we were on - and yet few have listened to her. We are now staring at a future which will be even worse than that experienced in recent years.

The BBC is not even covering the story on its main News Pages anymore - it lurks in the Politics section. That is how embarassed they are by the whole story - even for them it is hard to support a Government that is using the Police to arrest their critics.

PS The last time the POLICE sent 200 people to arrest 2 East End Muslims ( one of who they accidentally shot ) they found no evidence of any wrongdoing - but then they announced that they had found Child Porn on their home computers - a claim that was later withdrawn of course because it was a smear....even later on several Police assaulted these two Muslims as they were walking home.

The problem when dealing with such issues is this - who do you call when it is the POLICE who are breaking the law ? I rang up once and asked this and the operator at the end refused to answer......

I suggest you go and read other forums about these events - try the www.davidicke.com and www.abovetopsecret.com for a start - then move on to the DAILY MAIL comments - and the BBC Nick Robinson Blog comments.

The UK people are united against this action by the POLICE. Perhaps they have at last opened the eyes of all those who have been in the dark.

"insanity" yes I agree - the actions of the Police and Labour are the actions of people who have totally lost the plot. Time for them to all resign and lets have an election.
 
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#38229
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Comments on the BBC - I refer you to the Twat-O-Tron which takes quotes from BBC's Have You Say section and make no further comment.

Tony Benn and David Cameron concur with you about "Brown and his State police"? I don't think so.

Again I repeat, cherry-picking select bits of information that confirm your previously held prejudice is not the way to truth.

You've simply gone off on a long winded tangent to avoid delivering any substance to back-up your rather wild claims. I don't think you realise you are doing this which is why I question your grip on reality.

Evidence BR, evidence. Evidence is not the plural of anecdote.
 
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